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    The Daily Beast

    U.S. 'Paid a Price' on Egypt

    In a blunt assessment, President Obama’s first national security adviser told a private audience this week that there is a “chasm” between the United States and its Gulf Arab allies that has yet to heal since the White House very publicly ushered Egypt’s president out of power in February.

    Retired Marine Gen. James Jones, who served as national security adviser in 2009-10, told a private meeting at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce that the United States’ Persian Gulf allies interpret the president’s handling of the Egyptian revolution as a sign that Washington will dump their monarchies or governments if enough demonstrators take to their streets, according to a recording of the speech reviewed by The Daily Beast.

    “We have paid a price,” Jones said of the decision to call for Hosni Mubarak’s ouster. “Our policy with regard to Mubarak as interpreted by some of our closest Arab allies in the Gulf has not gone over well.”

    “In their interpretation of our dumping President Mubarak very hastily, [it] answered the question of what we would be likely to do if that happened in their countries. So there is a chasm there that somehow has to be bridged,” he added.

    Jones did not immediately return a call to his office seeking comment Tuesday.

    The remarks from the former national security adviser, who left the White House last year, comprise one of the frankest assessments of the U.S. relationship with its oldest and most important Arab ally, Saudi Arabia. The Saudis have been aligned with the United States since the last Roosevelt administration, providing oil to the West in exchange for security guarantees from the U.S. military.

    Over the years, the intelligence and security relationship in particular between the United States and Saudi Arabia has grown increasingly interconnected. At the same time, since the 1960s the Saudis also have supported a foreign policy to spread political Islam throughout the Muslim world, exacerbating tensions with Washington since the 9/11 attacks. Many of the al Qaeda attackers were of Saudi descent. Still, the Saudis remain a significant ally in the war on terror.

    “In general, yes, there is that concern, certainly among the Gulf countries, that the United States does not stand by its friends in the region,” said Marwan Muasher, a former foreign minister and deputy prime minister of Jordan. “In the case of the Saudis there is an additional point, which is a concern that the United States is not serious about the peace process.”

    Since the fall of Mubarak, the Saudis have begun to bolster Arab governments that have not fallen to the Arab spring. In July, Saudi Arabia announced a $1 billion grant for Jordan. Meanwhile, the Saudis have provided logistical and military support to the government of Bahrain, which has sought to suppress popular unrest. The Saudi kingdom, however, has not supported the regimes in Libya or Syria during the Arab Spring.

    According to some Egyptian observers, the Saudis also have sought to bolster political parties in Cairo ahead of the upcoming elections in Egypt.

    Shadi Taha, deputy to the liberal Egyptian political leader Ayman Nour, said in an interview that since March he has been urging U.S. diplomats in the region to use American influence with Gulf countries to curb unaccountable funding for political groups that are sympathetic to the return of Mubarak.

    “The funding is coming from charities,” Taha said. “It’s not the government, it’s from families. But the Saudi government can stop this easily.”

    The Saudi ambassador in Cairo has publicly denied any role in funding political parties in Egypt. Along with other Gulf countries, the Saudis have made grants to Egypt for development in the country after the fall of Mubarak.

    Taha said he was frustrated that the U.S. has not responded to him about funding from Gulf Arab countries to Egyptian political groups. “I have heard nothing back from the State Department, from the U.S. Embassy, or from the organizations that work closely with Egyptian parties,” he said. “This leads me to think that there is probably a greater power than me on this. I think there is a strong network of lobbying in Washington from Gulf countries that are frankly more important to this administration than Egyptian democrats.”

    A senior administration official who spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing diplomatic sensitivities, said, “We share the concern expressed by some Egyptians that not all countries are as transparent and nonpartisan as the U.S. in their support for the election process.”

    The official added, “Senior U.S. government officials have raised our concerns with senior Egyptian officials and Egypt’s neighbors, and urged that appropriate measures be taken to ensure the Egyptian election process is protected from outside influence.”

    A major concern for the United States has been the influence of Iranian money, according to three U.S. officials.

    Taha also said he is urging the U.S. government to publish a list of political organizations that have received support from the U.S. government for democracy assistance in order to prove to the public that his party, al-Ghad, does not receive U.S. funding. For years al-Ghad has been accused in Egypt of being a pawn of the United States.

    “We have repeatedly asked to clear our name because we haven’t received foreign funding,” he said. “We are hoping we hear from a U.S. official that the United States did not fund political parties, among them al-Ghad party.”

    The United States has provided $60 million for democratic transition in Egypt since Mubarak’s fall from power in February. Some of that money goes toward technical election training like platform writing, election law, and other programs aimed at building a democratic civil society.

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said the United States will be prepared to meet with a number of political parties, including the Muslim Brotherhood. A U.S. official told The Daily Beast on Tuesday that a “handful” of members of the Muslim Brotherhood have “availed themselves of programs” funded by the United States for election training.

    Jon Alterman, the director of the Middle East program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said the funding for election training executed by groups like the International Republican Institute and the National Democratic Institute are not ways to influence the outcome of foreign elections.

    “If the United States were trying to shift the outcome of the Egyptian elections, it would not do it through the democracy assistance money,” Alterman said. “If you want to influence elections, you do it covertly. There is too much transparency in how [the democracy assistance funding] would be used.”

     

    1,199 comments

    • Cobra  •  7 mths ago
      We also "paid a price" for supporting the governments of Chang, and Rhee, and Batista, and Diem, and Ky, and Thieu, and Marcos, and Pinochet, and the Shah in the face of popular demonstrations. For every action in foreign policy, there is "price" to be paid. The goal is to manage the price in such a way that is to our country's advantage.
      • Templar Cat 7 mths ago
        Cobra Commander could not have said it better himself!
      • Daniel 7 mths ago
        That's right! Besides over there they don't love us/US that much anyway, no matter what
      • lotin 7 mths ago
        Way to go Cobra , we can see now that we were way off on the side of history... We did the right thing this time in egypt.
    • TM  •  7 mths ago
      Gee Wiz. How dare the US support democratic reforms in other countries. Everyone knows how great monarchies and other dictatorships are. Just ask Russia. They're going back to a dictatorship.
    • Realistic 1  •  7 mths ago
      Is this a joke? Mubarak was a U.S. puppet that we supported with billions of U.S. dollars. WE had nothing to do with the removal. If it was up to the U.S. they would have left Mubarak in power till he died as he was Pro-Israel. Cut off funding to ALL countries because the American people need that funding to deal with the crisis in our own country.
    • Anthony  •  7 mths ago
      wow, and all this time "we the people over here in America" were told that it was all of Egypt's Youth pushing for reform... boy... we were lied to... yet again! (sarcarm off now)
    • Rainman  •  7 mths ago
      Yet ANOTHER screw up by our incompetent president. OUT in 2012!
    • LARRY H  •  7 mths ago
      Taking sides in another nations squabble has the same results as taking sides in a lovers quarrel. No matter where you stick your nose into it your going to get a bloody nose.
      • Octavio 7 mths ago
        ....and rightfully so .
      • GOPGaveUsBush 7 mths ago
        Monroe Doctrine. Or in layman's terms so the popular masses can understand, Star Trek Prime Directive which says to keep your noses out of primitive cultures' affairs because what you do may have irreparable, negative consequences in their development.
      • Kaiser 7 mths ago
        Well ofcourse when you beat the drums of democracy non stop and keep dictators as bedfellows... you would run into issues like these. How about not being hypocritical... that should really help your case.
    • Shirley M  •  7 mths ago
      Wow, does that mean we don't need to pay them any more money to be our friends and they can do it on their own, without those hands stretched out to our government for money.
      that would be good news
    • Brett  •  7 mths ago
      And thats a good thing.
    • Obama Bin Lying  •  7 mths ago
      Hey Barack....that is what happens when you throw your friends under a bus. No one trusts you...
    • Jamie  •  7 mths ago
      How about we keep our noses out of the region completely! Wow what a grand idea that seems to elude all our politicians except Ron Paul. SIGH.....
    • B  •  7 mths ago
      George Washington made a factual statement that our country has failed to heed. "Be weary of forgein involvement!" We need to to reassess our global policing role and focus our efforts and money on america. When will we learn?
      • mike w 7 mths ago
        That was 220 years ago. Europe was a 6 week voyage not a 5 hour plane ride. World War one proved isolationism is a big mistake. A BIG mistake. It was a main factor in the advent of WWII. I could have pulled your quote from a letters to the Editor page from a 1915 newspaper. Isolationism is a pipe dream, period.
      • andy 7 mths ago
        b ..i agree completly..all we need to do is look at the voting in the un the see the real friends
    • Floyd  •  7 mths ago
      Well thats just the way the goverment of the USA works now they sell out to the highest bidder. Just like they do after they're elected. Lying crooks till the end. Look at how they do the American people.
    • Store  •  7 mths ago
      C'mon Al - Saddam was our bestest buddy in the region until he became more useful as a foe. The Argentine Junta was our bestest South American buddy until Maggy Thatcher stole the Malvinas back. Noriega was our bestest buddy... Anyone in power who DOESN'T see a bit a trend is either blind or stupid
    • TD Hard  •  7 mths ago
      Since when does the US government control who is president in foriegn countries??
      • MISC. 7 mths ago
        Ever here of the bay of pigs disaster.
        Also it's pure common sense. As a government, would you publicly call out who your pawns are to your enemies? Play a risk game and it'll give you an entry into understanding the thinking that is necessary to survive in the world.
    • Mar H  •  7 mths ago
      What the heck did Obama think was going to happen. You are a bumb #$%$ Obama. We need to stay the heck of of other countries problems. We have enough of our own.
      • Michael 7 mths ago
        Yeah, You didn't see Bush sticking his nose in other countries business.
    • First L  •  7 mths ago
      Laughable. We supported this puppet dictator for years will more aid to egypt then any other country except israel. when our government saw the writing on the wall, we quickly took the side of the people. before that, our government didnt give 2 #$%$
    • ChrisH  •  7 mths ago
      Really, the problem here is that we so often see these people as tools to be put towards our ends as opposed to people who deserve to make their own determinations about their futures. It also helps that meddling in their affairs and propping up brutal autocracies like Saudi Arabia is a large part of why so many of them hate us so strongly.
    • go  •  7 mths ago
      They are not our allies
    • nathan  •  7 mths ago
      Saudis understand that money can buy any superpower on earth. The west needs them to buy their airbus, boeings, military armements, cars, civil engineering contracts and any gadgets. additionaly, million of jobs are saved in the west when the saudis buy the west’s goodies. The west needs them because it is the only oil producer country who is able to put more oil on the market in a very short period. They have invested billion of dollars in usa and other countries. So, they are untouchable. Furthermore, democraty is not in their dictionary and they will support and finance any arab leader that desire to crash the democratic forces in the street. The west can’t remove them from power because the west will get taliban kind of new leaders. The facts are here and the house of saud has been known to be extremely smart. But, the saudis have been scared to death of iran and they have been working with other western countries to crash the iranians.
    • Brian  •  7 mths ago
      Why do Americans care so much about Israel? Please Reply, I am very curious. How is supporting Israel in America's best interest?
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