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    Unemployed face tough competition: underemployed

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The job market is even worse than the 9.1 percent unemployment rate suggests.

    America’s 14 million unemployed aren’t competing just with each other. They must also contend with 8.8 million other people not counted as unemployed — part-timers who want full-time work.

    When consumer demand picks up, companies will likely boost the hours of their part-timers before they add jobs, economists say. It means they have room to expand without hiring.

    And the unemployed will face another source of competition once the economy improves: Roughly 2.6 million people who aren’t counted as unemployed because they’ve stopped looking for work. Once they start looking again, they’ll be classified as unemployed. And the unemployment rate could rise.

    Intensified competition for jobs means unemployment could exceed its historic norm of 5 percent to 6 percent for several more years. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office expects the rate to exceed 8 percent until 2014. The White House predicts it will average 9 percent next year, when President Barack Obama runs for re-election.

    The jobs crisis has led Obama to schedule a major speech Thursday night to propose steps to stimulate hiring. Republican presidential candidates will likely confront the issue in a debate the night before.

    The back-to-back events will come days after the government said employers added zero net jobs in August. The monthly jobs report, arriving three days before Labor Day, was the weakest since September 2010.

    Combined, the 14 million officially unemployed; the “underemployed” part-timers who want full-time work; and “discouraged” people who have stopped looking make up 16.2 percent of working-age Americans.

    The Labor Department compiles the figure to assess how many people want full-time work and can’t find it — a number the unemployment rate alone doesn’t capture.

    In a healthy economy, this broader measure of unemployment stays below 10 percent. Since the Great Recession officially ended more than two years ago, the rate has been 15 percent or more.

    The proportion of the work force made up of the frustrated part-timers has risen faster than unemployment has since the recession began in December 2007.

    That’s because many companies slashed workers’ hours after the recession hit. If they restored all those lost hours to their existing staff, they’d add enough hours to equal about 950,000 full-time jobs, according to calculations by Heidi Shierholz, an economist at the Economic Policy Institute.

    That’s without having to hire a single employee.

    No one expects every company to delay hiring until every part-timer is working full time. But economists expect job growth to stay weak for two or three more years in part because of how many frustrated part-timers want to work full time.

    And because employers are still reluctant to increase hours for part-timers, “hiring is really a long way off,” says Christine Riordan, a policy analyst at the National Employment Law Project. In August, employees of private companies worked fewer hours than in July.

    Some groups are disproportionately represented among the broader category of unemployment that includes underemployed and discouraged workers. More than 26 percent of African Americans, for example, and nearly 22 percent of Hispanics are in this category. The figure for whites is less than 15 percent. Women are more likely than men to be in this group.

    Among the Americans frustrated with part-time work is Ryan McGrath, 26. In October, he returned from managing a hotel project in Uruguay. He’s been unable to find full-time work. So he’s been freelancing as a website designer for small businesses in the Chicago area.

    Some weeks he’s busy and making money. Other times he struggles. He’s living at home, and sometimes he has to borrow $50 from his father to pay bills. He’s applied for “a million jobs.”

    “You go to all these interviews for entry-level positions, and you lose out every time,” he says.

    Nationally, 4.5 unemployed people, on average, are competing for each job opening. In a healthy economy, the average is about two per opening.

    Facing rejection, millions give up and stop looking for jobs.

    Norman Spaulding, 54, quit his job as a truck driver two years ago because he needed work that would let him care for his disabled 13-year-old daughter.

    But after repeated rejections, Spaulding concluded a few weeks ago that the cost of driving to visit potential employers wasn’t worth the expense. He suspended his job hunt.

    He and his family are getting by on his daughter’s disability check from Social Security. They’re living in a trailer park on Texas’ Gulf Coast.

    “It costs more to look than we have to spend,” he says.

    Eventually, lots of Americans like Spaulding will start looking for jobs again. If those work-force dropouts had been counted as unemployed, August’s unemployment rate would have been 10.6 percent instead of 9.1 percent.

    Emma Draper, 23, lost her public relations job this summer. To pay the rent on her Washington apartment, she’s working part time at the retailer South Moon Under. She’s selling $120 Ralph Lauren swimsuits and other trendy clothes.

    Her search for full-time work has been discouraging. Employers don’t call back for months, if ever.

    “You’re basically on their timeline,” Draper says. “It’s really hard to find a job unless you know somebody who can give you an inside edge.”

    Retailers, in particular, favor part-timers. They value the flexibility of being able to tap extra workers during peak sales times without being overstaffed during lulls. Some use software to precisely match their staffing levels with customer traffic. It holds down their expenses.

    “They know up to the minute how many people they need,” says Carrie Gleason of the Retail Action Project, which advocates better working conditions for retail workers. “It’s almost created a contingent work force.”

    Draper appreciates her part-time retail job, and not just because it helps pay the bills. It takes her mind off the frustration of searching for full-time work.

    “Right now, finding a job is my job,” she says. “If that was the only thing I had to do, I’d be going insane. There is only so much time you can sit at your computer, sending out resumes.”

    ___

    Leonard reported from St. Louis. AP Business Writer Ellen Gibson in New York contributed to this report.

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    3,500 comments

    • Alicia Davis  •  8 mths ago
      And yet sports players get paid millons to play with ball, I don't understand it.
      • Dominic 8 mths ago
        ball players are the best at what they do. Out of the 6 billion people on earth, only a few hundred are good enough. If you did something better than the other 6billion people on earth, and there was a demand for it, how would you want to be compensated?
      • Nyumnyumnyum 8 mths ago
        Yes Football player gets GBP 100.000/ week, silly isn't it
      • James 8 mths ago
        I agree with Dominic. Athletes have made sacrifices their whole lives to reach their status. They have to be at the top of their game all the time. How does that compare with some lazy working american who pigs out on junkfood and sits on their #$%$ watching Jerry Springer? Big difference in workrate and big difference in payrate!
    • Jessie C  •  8 mths ago
      This is why I am going to get a certificate first before working with kids.
    • James S  •  8 mths ago
      The government, does not publish the real numbers, then people would know we're in a true depression!
      • Mike V 8 mths ago
        We are in a depression. This is the 1930's all over again!
      • A Yahoo! User 8 mths ago
        RIGHT ON! I feel we were in a recession before Bush left office. This is a depression, but the rich did it to themselves, by destroying our industrial base. I now know what Karl Marx meant when he said (Econ. Doctrine Class) "Capitalism will destroy itself" IT'S CALLED GREED, TOTAL GREED!
    • john  •  8 mths ago
      I can solve this country's employment probelms is two seconds, move everybody to China and Mexico where all of our stuff is being manufactured, then we will all have jobs, also, you can get a jump on the people that live here when we become the Chinated States of America.
    • dwill31  •  8 mths ago
      The rich get richer and the poor just choke. What have come to?
      • Carlos R 8 mths ago
        read DavidW...the rich get richer...the poor get government support...and the middle class is dying off.
        how about looking at the fair tax?
      • Jenna 8 mths ago
        The rich make money off of their wealth, the poor make money from their income. Same outcome though.
      • Cheryl 8 mths ago
        Totally agree w/Carlos! I'm on unemloyment right now and still I don't use food stamps or any type of assistance. Middle class gets nada.
    • Casey  •  8 mths ago
      When I was a manager, I workd with one of those computer programs thathelp minimize labor hours. I remembe doing the paperwork and we only PROFITED $900 that hour, so I had to send a $7 an hour employee home. I had to call the cops at him as he is screaming "I need the hours to afford my rent, your not sending me home cause some computer told you you didn't make enough money!"

      The error in this report is that companies don't want full time workers. They like having a giant part time contingent staff that are on food stamps. The truth is the bump in hours the underemployed will get is from 20 hours to 27 hours, still low enough to need government subsodiez.
      • Lisa 8 mths ago
        That is how walmart works...they help you out with your welfare application along with your job application.
    • Eric  •  8 mths ago
      It is sad that many illegals are here living off our welfare system. Isn't it time to ask why Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid why they insist that we need to spend more money on welfare, unemployment and housing vouchers? Isn't it time to ask the government in CA why they don't require you to be a citizen to receive all the above benefit? IRS even admitted that they sent BILLIONS in refunds to illegal aliens working here and yet, they do nothing about it. A citizen miss a couple of pennies on their tax return and get sent to IRS hell, while they won't even report the illegals to DHS...and you wonder why Americans are out of jobs? Ask Obama why.
      • Flynn 8 mths ago
        I am moving to Canada after I finish college....No question at all about it.
    • Me  •  8 mths ago
      The ILLIGALS in America living in one house maybe 4 bedrooms or less but there’s about 4 to 7 working people living in that house or more, it can be 4 or more families with small children and wives ready to have another baby who is living on welfare claiming she don’t know where their husband is located and he in fact living in the home. I notice the people in my neighborhood they are doing this and the home looks like HELL on the inside. There are beds everywhere; they all have new cars and trucks sending money to Mexico taking care of families there putting Americans out of work who don’t want to be on welfare. REAL Americans what are we going to do about this ongoing problem that our government can’t handle.
    • I Love America  •  8 mths ago
      We need results not a bunch of worthless speeches by the rich who don't need jobs ! ! !
    • JK  •  8 mths ago
      They took our jerbs!
    • Joey  •  8 mths ago
      What's the longest you've actually been unemployed or underemployed? I went for six months unemployed, and underemployed: 8 years and going. It was pretty tough stuff. Found this free webinar about it http://www.bigmarker.com/corharlock/room2

      Wanted to share it with everyone,
    • Me  •  8 mths ago
      You know the BIG CORPORATIONS are not smart at all, what good it will do for them if the people here have no way to support themselves and buy from then to keep them rich and famous. If we starve so will they, they won’t be able living in that BIG HOUSE of theirs or eat fancy foods and they won’t be able to afford anything either because they are buying cheap labor that makes no profits for them. When you have you business here you are feeding America, they have money, they buy things which goes into the BIG BUSINESSMAN pockets but as long as they are overseas in places like INDIA paying them chicken fee we can buy so we'll start farming, growing our own foods, raising our own cows living like the LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE and for what it's worth it was a healthier life but hard. Think about our military, we won’t be able to afford them either and USA will be FOR SALE. Our politicians wants what behind door number 3 not 1. DOOR number 1 is Get Americans their jobs back by bring the American business back to USA. DOOR number 2 keep lying on other countries just to create wars sending our children out just to be killed. DOOR number 3 BANKRUPT.
    • AD  •  8 mths ago
      her destiny is to excel past all the rest, she is land of the free and home of the brave and patriotically she will employ her own born citizens enabling them to fulfill their patriotic duty of tax payments
    • AD  •  8 mths ago
      the selfish greed must give in to true patriotism of job creation for born citizens, she cannot be kicked or treaded on much longer as she is growing stronger past being just an early prostitute for foreign low wage loot, she will employ her own born citizens proudly patriotically as she alone is land of the free and home of the brave not the afraid to hire her own born citizens she cannot remain cowardly
    • Erick thee red  •  8 mths ago
      It's not easy even if you are full time! The job cuts you to 31 to 34 hours and the health insurance is PPO A and company dosen't pay it like before! Now you pay most of it if! or all!
      I miss the HMO at $116 or $148 month. Now PPO A is $500 month $500 Deductable plus the $7200 that is on you if have some bad happens $13,000 in year! I am poor now! before I got $3000 to $1900 at TAX time but, We paid in $11000.
      So you see rich get rich and poor are poor and middle class are learning how to Con and learn the tricks poor do to get by!
    • sammygirl  •  8 mths ago
      stop shipping the jobs overseas and do not out source.Charter and lots of others do this out source to India.How can they reset my cable box in India????????
    • abram  •  8 mths ago
      People are looking for a hand up... not a hand out! It becomes even more difficult when you are long term unemployed, no car, no place to really call home, and you are constantly grilled about how lazy and worthess you are. When they do not realize... you are motivated... you are working your butt off... you are doing everything you can, just to survive. Not everybody has the "luxury" of a support system and the resources/money to not be considered jobless/lazy bum. Everybody has certain skills... they just need be able to best utilize those skills in a way that can pay... so they can pay for the things they need to survive. It is especially difficult when you are working harder and longer than ever... without pay! It is all too easy to marginalize and mock people who are "down and out". But that does not help anyone out... especially those who need it the most. So... if you are fortunate enough to have a good job that you enjoy and pays well... and all the stars were aligned just right for you to be able to have that... consider yourself lucky! And please try and remember that not everybody has had the same situation as you in life... to be able to live like you live... and have what you have. A little bit of greatfulness, graciosness, and paying it forward from time to time can go a long, long way....
    • Shannon  •  8 mths ago
      the worst part about being unemployed is no one will give you a job unless you already have one which is discrimination!!! But I am discriminated against because I am under employed as well. Potential employers take one look at my current underemployed situation and they condemn me for that too. I took the job which is not in my field and way below my pay scale so that I would at least have something but have found that employers are discouraged by and discriminate against that too. So no matter what I seem to do it doesn't matter because the unemployed/underemployed are getting SCREWED, by the government, corporations, and the general public because everyone discriminates against the unemployed/underemployed. It's sickening really!!! Shame shame shame on those at fault (JP Morgan Chase, World Bank, George Soros, the Rothchilds, Congress, Senate, mr obama) who could put a stop to it at any moment but their wallets aren't fat enough yet so the rest of us have to keep suffering. I will sure be glad when we put them under the train for a change!!!!! Instead of America being at their mercy!!!!!
    • LEAR SI  •  8 mths ago
      Strengthen your will to persist in this dark hour. There is one job for you out there.
    • Dante of Dar  •  8 mths ago
      It's not only about Jerbs

      There are approximately 30 million illegal aliens in the United States that plan, along with the illegal alien in chief Barack Soetoro Obama, to destroy the United States of America. And that's not counting all the other communist traitors and internationalists who are hiding and waiting in the shadows to attack and overthrow the only free government left in the world.
      Read "Masters of Deceit" by J. Edgar Hoover, "None Dare call it Treason" by John Stormer and "The Illegal Alien Invasion". All can be purchased on the Internet, although thanks to comrade California Governor Brown you will have to pay an Internet purchase tax if you buy them in California.
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