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    US deplores video of Marines urinating on dead

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has promised Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai a full investigation of an Internet video that purports to depict four U.S. Marines urinating on the corpses of Taliban fighters — a video both men condemned Thursday as deplorable.

    At least two of the four men have been identified as Marines based at Camp Lejeune, N.C., said a Marine official, speaking on condition of anonymity because there is an active criminal investigation of the incident.

    In a public statement, Panetta said such behavior is "entirely inappropriate for members of the United States military" and that those responsible will be held accountable.

    The video, posted on the Internet, shows men in Marine combat gear standing in a semi-circle over three bodies. It's not clear whether the dead were Taliban or civilians or someone else. The title on the posting called them Taliban insurgents and said the men were from Camp Lejeune.

    Officials did not officially verify the video's origin or authenticity but had no evidence to doubt what it was.

    "It clearly appears to be to us what it appears to be to you — troops urinating on corpses," Pentagon spokesman Capt. John Kirby told reporters Thursday.

    The two men who have been identified were members of 3rd Battalion, 2nd Marines, based at Camp Lejeune, the main Marine base on the East Coast., said the official speaking anonymously. Some of the four are no longer in that battalion, which returned from Afghanistan last fall, said the official, who gave no other information about them.

    The video was roundly denounced in the U.S. and Afghanistan alike.

    Karzai called it "completely inhumane." The Afghan Defense Ministry called it "shocking." And the Taliban issued a statement accusing U.S. forces of committing numerous "indignities" against the Afghan people.

    "First they killed the Afghans with mortars, and they then urinated on their bodies," Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid said of what is shown in the video. "We strongly condemn this inhumane action by the wild American soldiers."

    Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton expressed "total dismay" at the video and said it was "absolutely inconsistent with the standards of behavior that the vast majority of Marines hold themselves to."

    Panetta, who phoned Karzai to discuss the incident, said the actions in the video, if confirmed, were inexcusable.

    "I have seen the footage, and I find the behavior depicted in it utterly deplorable. I condemn it in the strongest possible terms," Panetta's statement said. "Those found to have engaged in such conduct will be held accountable to the fullest extent."

    The video came to light at a delicate time in relations among the United States, Afghanistan's elected government and the Taliban insurgency fighting for both territorial control and cultural and religious preeminence in Afghanistan. The U.S. is trying to foster peace talks between the Karzai government and the Pakistan-based Taliban high command, and has made unprecedented offers to build trust with the insurgents, including the planned opening of a Taliban political office to oversee talks.

    One of the largest obstacles to peace discussions has been widespread Afghan contempt for U.S. military tactics. Opposition to the U.S. and NATO military presence in Afghanistan usually centers on civilian casualties from military engagement, although the vast majority of those deaths are caused by the insurgents. The video is likely to resonate with those opposed to the U.S. presence and to peace with the U.S.-backed Karzai government.

    U.S. officials seemed to have ordered a variety of investigations:

    —Panetta said he had ordered the Marine Corps and Marine Gen. John Allen, the top commander of the NATO-led forces in Afghanistan, to fully investigate.

    —In a written statement, the commandant of the Marine Corps, Gen. James Amos, said he requested on Wednesday evening that the Naval Criminal Investigative Service investigate, and that the Marines would, separately, do their own internal investigation.

    "The Marine Corps will not rest until the allegations and the events surrounding them have been resolved. We remain fully committed to upholding the Geneva Convention, the Laws of War, and our own core values," Amos said.

    The NATO-led security force in Afghanistan released a statement Thursday saying, "This disrespectful act is inexplicable and not in keeping with the high moral standards we expect of coalition forces."

    The actions "appear to have been conducted by a small group of U.S. individuals, who apparently are no longer serving in Afghanistan," the International Security Assistance Force said. The statement did not identify the personnel or explain why the ISAF thought they had left the country.

    A spokesman at Camp Lejeune in North Carolina would not confirm reports that the Marines were based there. "We have had elements of that unit that have deployed to Afghanistan and have returned. However, we have not yet confirmed if anyone in the video is from that unit, or whether they are attached to a unit from Lejeune," said Capt. Scott Sasser.

    Pentagon officials said the criminal investigation would likely look into whether the Marines violated laws of war, which include prohibitions against photographing bodies and detainees and a range of other rules.

    Mujahid urged the U.N. and other international groups to end such actions by U.S. troops.

    On Wednesday, the Council on Islamic-American Relations, a prominent Muslim civil rights and advocacy group based in Washington, protested the video in a letter to Panetta.

    "We condemn this apparent desecration of the dead as a violation of our nation's military regulations and of international laws of war prohibiting such disgusting and immoral actions," the group wrote.

    "If verified as authentic, the video shows behavior that is totally unbecoming of American military personnel and that could ultimately endanger other soldiers and civilians," the letter said.

    ___

    Associated Press writers Slobodan Lekic and Deb Reichmann in Kabul, Afghanistan; Anne Gearan in Washington and Susanne Schafer in Columbia, S.C., contributed to this report.

     
    • A Yahoo! User  •  Fort Myers, Florida  •  4 mths ago
      Punish all the American servicemen and women stationed in Afghanistan by sending them to Camp Lejune and make sure they don't leave any of their equipment behind. Making them come home and leave all the luxuries of living among hateful, unwashed people and animal dung will be a harsh punishment.
      • R. Mageddon 4 mths ago
        Agreed!
      • Dio 4 mths ago
        back to the luxury of living among hateful, brainwashed southerners, but at least they're civilized because they pick up the animal dung themselves.
    • We THE People  •  4 mths ago
      eh........Our government #$%$ on our Constitution too, must be the trend
    • sargfish7  •  4 mths ago
      Gosh .... Maybe the taliban will not like us anymore.
    • moi  •  4 mths ago
      We just need to get all our troops home and clean up our own 'backyards'...drugs, illegals, etc.
    • Pamela  •  Omaha, Nebraska  •  4 mths ago
      As a vet and a Marine this is not good PR. On the other hand as a Muslim the taliban are a disgrace and dark spot on GOOD MUSLIMS. What they do to fellow Muslims and humans in general is a sin this is karma at its best.
      • liljimmy 4 mths ago
        I disagree. This should be shown to every Taliban.
      • Rick 4 mths ago
        I agree, except for the part about there being any 'good muslims.'
      • Curt 4 mths ago
        Karma? Do you really think that what this is? Isn't killing them enough? I wonder who thought #$%$ on the dead was a good idea? Once again America comes across as the evil empire. Can't we even fight a war with dignity anymore, do we have to lower ourselves to the bottom level? I'm sure that will cause a revenge killing and #$%$ or worse.
    • American Citizen  •  Stanton, California  •  4 mths ago
      When you are taught to kill ...why is THIS such a big deal?
      • Lee W 4 mths ago
        You are such a twit! You would be among the first to holler for those "trained to kill" troops when and if this country is invaded!
        Therefore, keep your big mouth shut!
      • Number 4 mths ago
        i agree the are enemy corp. if you have problem with it, would you go and hold gun with the marine. i don't see as a big deal.
      • LLLLL 4 mths ago
        Yes, it is a big deal. "The few and the proud" have a reputation of acting with honor, on and off the battlefield. This is dishonorable behavior.
    • Charles  •  Madison, Wisconsin  •  4 mths ago
      I deplore the Taliban and what they've done to our troops.
      • DWF 4 mths ago
        Yeah like they deserve to be respected. NOT.....
      • bammer 4 mths ago
        Ya because they are simply fighting our invasion on THEIR home turf THEY are the bad ones.... good logic america!
    • Junior  •  San Antonio, Texas  •  4 mths ago
      where is the uproar from the muslim world when taliban fighters murder and desecrate? thank you for serving Marines.
    • ***  •  4 mths ago
      They should have just sprinkled bacon bits on them !
    • Judy  •  4 mths ago
      Heck, urine is just a little Islamic cologne.
    • GLENN  •  Columbia, South Carolina  •  4 mths ago
      What an uproar over an alleged incident. At least whomsoever urinated on the corpses didn't behead them live on the net nor did they mutilate the corpses and hang them from a bridge. I think with the corrupt stench in this nation's capital the word deplorable is a two edged sword.
    • semi native  •  Tampa, Florida  •  4 mths ago
      I guess the 72 virgins won't go near them now:)
    • A Yahoo! User  •  Tampa, Florida  •  4 mths ago
      they probably should not have done it, they definately should not have recorded it, but I cannot help but say the afghans have NO room to talk! that is like an abortion doctor calling Casey Anthony a murderer
    • Jeani  •  4 mths ago
      so what
    • TIGERMANLSU  •  Baton Rouge, Louisiana  •  4 mths ago
      ALL IS FAIR IN LOVE AND WAR
    • mike s  •  Chula Vista, California  •  4 mths ago
      This is how I felt returning from Vietnam Nam; Americans #$%$ on me.
    • MJ  •  4 mths ago
      People, if we really knew what went on during battle, we would all puke.... war is hell. But if you are going to battle, you should kill every man, woman and child until total 100% surrender. Usually it's the women that get sick of the killing and tell their men to stop. It took a couple of nukes to end the war in Japan and endless carpet bombing of Germany to push Hitler to kill himself... its not a pretty thing, get over it.
    • nunyabizwax  •  4 mths ago
      well if those taliban fighters that got pee'd on has a problem with it let them speak up..oh wait they were killed trying to ambush our marines..i guess whomever doesn't like it will just have to build a bridge and get over it.
    • Christine  •  Brush Prairie, Washington  •  4 mths ago
      I'll add the politicians don't deplore this either. They deplore the stupidity of anyone making a video of it and putting it on YouTube. Even the enemy has the internet.
    • Buster  •  Greenville, North Carolina  •  4 mths ago
      What cracks me up about Iran is that instead of trying to acclimate themselves to the World community they are insistent that the world change to fit their needs. It doesn't work that way - look at North Korea - Oh - that's right bad example.. PPhhhttt..
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