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    US troops in Afghanistan: How big is shift from 'combat' to 'assistance'?

    The US plan to end its combat mission in Afghanistan by the end of 2013, shifting to an 'advise and assist' role, may not mean a huge change for troops on the ground.

    Washington

    Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta said this week that the United States plans to end its combat mission in Afghanistan by the end of 2013.

    What does this mean for US troops, exactly? Are they likely to be safer? To see less fighting?

    In practical terms, probably not. 


    The move away from a “combat role” into, as Mr. Panetta explained it, an “advise and assist role” is replete with some murky military definitions.

    For some time, Afghan forces have been “in the lead” for security in some provinces throughout the country. For US troops this still means providing plenty of help, analysts note. US soldiers and Marines come to the aid of Afghan forces in battle and continue to supply water, transportation, and other vital supplies.

    Panetta explained that this transition will often be a matter of formality. “It’s still a pretty robust role that we’ll be engaged in,” he said Wednesday. “It’s not going to be kind of the formal combat role that we are now, but it clearly is going to be a role where we are going to be providing a great deal of support and assistance to the Afghan Army.” 

    He added, “Look, it doesn’t mean that – you know, we’re not – we’re not going to be combat-ready.”

    US troops will have to continue to call on this combat-readiness in a country that remains in violent turmoil. 

    The intelligence community’s annual “threat assessment,” released this week, paints a picture of a Taliban-led insurgency that “has long ground in some areas.” However, the report notes, “its losses have come mainly in areas where ISAF [International Security Assistance Force] surge forces are concentrated.”

    These US "surge forces" are set to come home later this year after the summer fighting season. Their ranks will decrease from some 90,000 now to roughly 68,000 by the end of 2012.

    The Obama administration has yet to decide how many troops will leave the country in 2013.

    Yet even as the number of US troops will decline, it is unclear that Afghan forces will be able to hold territory on their own. The annual threat assessment, produced by the Central Intelligence Agency and the Director of National Intelligence, among others, put the readiness of Afghan forces in stark terms: “In terms of security, we judge that the Afghan police and Army will continue to depend on ISAF support.”

    That is precisely the concern of many US commanders on the ground in Afghanistan. For just this reason, then, Panetta's announcement sends a clear message to Afghan counterparts as well: that it’s time to step up the pace and take on more responsibility.

    Still, this didn’t stop some lawmakers on Capitol Hill from decrying the move. Said Rep. Buck McKeon (R) of California, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, “While there have certainly been improvements in Afghan security forces’ capabilities, the committee has not seen a single assessment by our commanders that indicates that they have any confidence in such a swift transition.”


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    • Igor Sowbelly  •  3 mths ago
      Our original mission for going into Afghanistan was to get Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.
      That has been accomplished, so we should have already exited Afghanistan long ago.

      All this effort spent in nation-building, training Afghan forces, setting up puppet governments, getting involved in their civil war by fighting the taliban, and the proposed advise and assist is all what we call "mission creep'. All of it. Every bit. And it was absolutely unnecessary toward accomplishing our original mission.

      And it was all a waste. The Afghan people don't want a nation, a democracy, a puppet govt, a trained national army, or advise and assist. That is what the US wants for them. What they want is what they have always had -- an "Afghanistan" consisting of several tribal regions, led by warlords or tribal chiefs, with no national govt, no democracy, with sharia (Islamic) law. When we leave the country, they will revert back to what they want.
      And most likely the taliban will take over once again.
      • jh2 3 mths ago
        The good ole USA, forcefeeding democracy one country at a time and killing our kids and grandkids. You #$%$ congress people go fight your own #$%$ war!
      • eddie l 3 mths ago
        You are correct. I don't think there ever was a clear mission in Afghanistan because the search for bin Laden and al Qaida was soon abandoned when we invaded Iraq based on lies made to the American people.
      • PerplexedByIDIOTS 3 mths ago
        Your astounding lack of knowledge of history is showing.

        Afghanistan was fairly modernized all the way up to the Soviet Invasion in
        1978-1988.

        That 10 year war reduced Afghanistan pretty much destroyed most all infrastructure.

        After that there was resulting fights between tribal regions and warlords trying to control the poppy fields left.

        Eventually the Taliban came in and took control. They restored some semblance of order but at the cost of living under a totalitarian religious extremist regime.

        The Taliban harbored Bin Laden and Al Qaeda. They were both religious extremist with similar views and agendas. This is why we went in to Afghanistan.

        The Afghan people were not that happy with life under the Taliban and that is why we were greeted with smiles and cheers by the majority of the population when we came in.

        Sadly, we took our eyes off the ball so to speak and invaded Iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11 or Al Qaeda. We should kept our focus on Afghanistan, Bin Laden and Al Qaeda in the first place.

        Also with out nation, these battle grounds like Afghanistan become rife breeding grounds for groups like Al Qaeda.

        Afghanistan is where Al Qaeda was born!

        They started off as the Mujahideen in the war against the Soviets and then became Al Qaeda in their war against western civilization in general.
    • FOX MULDER  •  3 mths ago
      If you're getting shot at and have to shoot back to protect yourself it's combat no matter how you try to spin it.
      • Bushcheney 3 mths ago
        I wish I lived next to you, I would be shooting at your sorry a....ss
      • FOX MULDER 3 mths ago
        I wouldn't give you a chance....I'd snap your neck.
      • Bushcheney 3 mths ago
        You would die from a groin shot and what is left I would jam it down your sorry a....ss throat you bug eyed loser
    • George  •  3 mths ago
      This is the only stratergy that will work for me. Exit, Exit Now not tomorrow. However, I will accept 2013 as getting all of our troops out of Afghanistan. We need to stop fighting Muskrat wars! Bring our troops home and prepare them for the Big One.
      • robert 3 mths ago
        Muskrat wars? Is that the opposite of Muskrat Love?
      • George 3 mths ago
        Actually it's Muslim. However, Yahoo keeps censoring me for using the Muslim word. I tell the truth and it can be verified, and Yahoo and its Muskrat associates don't like it and have taken away my former Identity for abuse. Be careful what you say because you never want to offend the Muskrats and Yahoo with the Truth!
        Stay away from their religion, they fear that the most!
      • GC 3 mths ago
        Georgie, what does it mean when you say,"Bring our troops home and prepare them for the Big One"? There are allready so many little ones around. Tell us if you know some secret. Happy Ground Hogs Day.
    • total chaos  •  Tucson, Arizona  •  3 mths ago
      It takes us 6 months to turn a high school student into a United States Marine.Why haven't they been able to build an Afgan army in 11 years?
      • richard held 3 mths ago
        You got that right. They don't want to be,"saved" ?
      • John C 3 mths ago
        Outstanding comment!!! If the AFghans wanted freedom like we have it they would by now.
      • Henry 3 mths ago
        They're kind of dumb and lazy...
    • American 2  •  Yakima, Washington  •  3 mths ago
      I hate MEDIA !!! First they complain cause we are there and now complain because we are trying to get the hell out!!! Hypocrits!!!
      • Matthew 3 mths ago
        Media isn't complaining. You are
    • Liz  •  Las Vegas, Nevada  •  3 mths ago
      Nothing has really changed since Vietnam. Different day and people, same garbage being fed to us.
    • Tim  •  3 mths ago
      Oh, and if you think we are bringing the "boys and girls" home, don't count on it, we are just regrouping for Iran.
    • Rushmael  •  3 mths ago
      For those of us old enough to remember Nixon using the term "Vietnamization" this dance is all too familiar. That policy failed to stop North Vietnamese troops from rolling in to Saigon. It was merely cover for us to finally get out of country. This Afghan policy is the same thing. Those who profit the most from war will oppose it and call it "unpatriotic" to leave. The truth is we can't do anything in Afghanistan when our presence there has no support among the Afghan people and Karzai is about as corrupt as most Corporate CEOs and Goldman Sachs and members of Congress.
    • Goodwin  •  3 mths ago
      Having worked with Afghans, I can say if we pull out at 0900, by noon the Taliban will be back in charge.
    • FEIGMO  •  3 mths ago
      As per the news = 'advise and assist' role, may not mean a huge change for troops....
      Talk about being the master of under-statement!! Korea was an Advise and Assist aka Police Action. Viet Nam started as an Advise and Assist aka Green Beret advisors. What a hugh pile of horseshitz !!!!!
    • Platobbins  •  Ogden, Utah  •  3 mths ago
      No country that has been involved with Afghanistan has fared well. It has a long depressing history of chewing up countries and spitting them out.
    • Jim  •  Sacramento, California  •  3 mths ago
      We have all seen this movie before , then they called it a "Peace action"
    • Tim  •  3 mths ago
      You know what question would never get a straight answer from most politicians? What are we still doing over there?
    • williamH  •  Saginaw, Michigan  •  3 mths ago
      The people of that region have been killing each other for millenia, outsiders will never get it stopped.
    • Ed  •  Killeen, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      As long as the Taliban can hide in Pakistan that conflict can't be won by us. Anybody out there ready to invade Pakistan. No, then get out, do not pass GO, do not collect 200 dollars.
      Just get the guys and gals out of harms way. It's a no brainer which means it should be obvious even to Romney. Let's quit the political rhetoric at the expense of our troops lives. I'm tired of being the last one to figure out the party is over. Turning out the lights can get pretty expensive.
    • GUINN  •  3 mths ago
      I am a vet of both afghanistan and iraq...our missions were accomplished there a long time ago..they all should be home already..also we should bring them home from all the post world war war 2 nonesense..like germany italy and so on..it would greatly help our own economy its time for the rest of the world to pull their own weight and our men and women to come home.4 good!!!!
    • Travlo*  •  Wichita, Kansas  •  3 mths ago
      From what I have seen when I was over there fighting for our country, the afghan people are nowhere near ready to take over this war. They can’t even trust their own people because they turn on them also. With a war like this you will never win because you don’t know who the bad guy is he doesn’t have a uniform on that tells you who he is. They look just like everyone else. I will give it a couple more years after this war then they will be shooting at us with our own weapons using other stuff we gave them in this war loll. They need us to keep fighting to keep our money in the country. They don't want us there but they love our checks! They need our money weapons, ammo to stay around. I say don’t give them anymore money, weapons and ammo and just cut them off so they can make it one there own.
    • J  •  Shreveport, Louisiana  •  3 mths ago
      please pull our troops out! american soldiers do not need to be there for any reason unless we are invading. In that case take of the cuffs.
    • Get_Real  •  3 mths ago
      Some possibilities of what happens when the US leaves.
      1. The Taliban will take over the country.
      2. There will be a coup of anti -Taliban forces (supported by the US) to overthrow the Karzai regime and go after the Taliban with a vengeance.
      3. The usual gang of warlords will duke it out and divide up the country.
      In any case the US should get out.
    • RB  •  Greenbelt, Maryland  •  3 mths ago
      We will never leave. We've not left Korea, Kosovo, or Kuwait. We won't leave Iraq or Afghanistan either. You can play the scrabble game with words, but the bottom line is that our influence continues, and the English class word games are to appease the public.
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