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    Va. Tech gunman kills officer, later found dead

    BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) — A gunman killed a police officer in a Virginia Tech parking lot Thursday and was found dead nearby in a baffling attack that sent shudders through the campus nearly five years after it was the scene of the deadliest shooting rampage in modern U.S. history.

    The shooting took place on the same day Virginia Tech officials were in Washington, fighting a government fine over their alleged mishandling of the 2007 bloodbath.

    Before it became clear that the gunman in Thursday's attack was dead, the school applied the lessons learned during the last tragedy, locking down the campus and using a high-tech alert system to warn students and faculty members to stay indoors.

    The officer was killed after pulling a driver over in a traffic stop. The gunman — who was not involved in the traffic stop — walked into the parking lot and shot the officer, Sgt. Robert Carpentieri said. Police wouldn't talk about a motive.

    A law enforcement official who spoke on the condition of anonymity confirmed the gunman was dead, but wouldn't say how.

    It appeared the gunman died about a quarter-mile away from the traffic stop, in another school parking lot, where officials said a man was found dead with a gun nearby. While police at a news conference wouldn't confirm the second body was the gunman, Carpentieri said "you can kind of read between the lines."

    The shooting prompted a lockdown that lasted for about four hours.

    "Today, tragedy again struck Virginia Tech," said university president Charles Steger. "Our hearts are broken again."

    The officer had served on the campus police force for four years. State police were still investigating whether he had been specifically targeted.

    Sudents were preparing for exams were suddenly told to hunker down. Heavily armed officers walked around campus as caravans of SWAT vehicles and other police cars with emergency lights flashing patrolled nearby.

    "A lot of people, especially toward the beginning were scared," said Jared Brumfield, a 19-year-old freshman from Culpeper, Va., who was locked in the Squires Student Center since around 1:30 p.m.

    The university sent updates about every 30 minutes, regardless of whether they had any new information, school spokesman Mark Owczarski said.

    "It's crazy that someone would go and do something like that with all the stuff that happened in 2007," said Corey Smith, a 19-year-old sophomore from Mechanicsville, Va., who was headed to a dining hall near the site of one of the shootings.

    He told The Associated Press that he stayed inside after seeing the alerts from the school. "It's just weird to think about why someone would do something like this when the school's had so many problems," Smith said.

    Harry White, 20, a junior physics major, said he was in line for a sandwich at a restaurant in a campus building when he received the text message alert.

    White said he didn't panic, thinking instead about a false alarm about a possible gunman that locked down the campus in August. White used an indoor walkway to go to a computer lab in an adjacent building, where he checked news reports.

    "I decided to just check to see how serious it was. I saw it's actually someone shooting someone, not something false, something that looks like a gun," White said.

    Campus was quieter than usual because classes ended Wednesday and students were preparing for exams, which were to begin Friday. The school postponed those tests.

    The shooting came soon after the conclusion of a hearing where Virginia Tech was appealing a $55,000 fine by the U.S. Education Department in connection with the university's response to the 2007 rampage.

    The department said the school violated the law by waiting more than two hours after two students were shot to death in their dorm before sending an email warning. By then, student gunman Seung-Hui Cho was chaining the doors to a classroom building where he killed 30 more people and then himself.

    The department said the email was too vague because it mentioned only a "shooting incident," not the deaths. During testimony Thursday, the university's police chief, Wendell Flinchum, said there were no immediate signs in the dorm to indicate a threat to the campus. He said the shootings were believed to be an isolated domestic incident and that the shooter had fled.

    An administrative judge ended the hearing by asking each side to submit a brief by the end of January. It is unclear when he will rule.

    Since the massacre, the school expanded its emergency notification systems. Alerts now go out by electronic message boards in classrooms, by text messages and other methods. Other colleges and universities have put in place similar systems.

    Universities are required under the Clery Act to provide warnings in a timely manner and to report the number of crimes on campus.

    During about a one-hour period on Thursday, the university issued four separate alerts.

    Derek O'Dell, a third-year veterinary student at Virginia Tech who was wounded in the 2007 shooting, was shaken.

    "It just brings up a lot of bad feelings, bad memories," O'Dell said. "You pray there are no more victims, and pray for the families."

    O'Dell was monitoring the situation from his home a couple of miles from campus.

    "At first I was just hoping it was a false alarm," he said. "Then there were reports of two people dead, and the second person shot was in the parking lot where I usually park to go to school so it was kind of surreal."

    In August, a report of a possible gunman at Virginia Tech set off the longest, most extensive lockdown and search on campus since 2007. No gunman was found, and the school gave the all-clear about five hours after sirens began wailing and students and staff members started receiving warnings.

    The system was also put to the test in 2008, when an exploding nail gun cartridge was mistaken for gunfire. Only one dorm was locked down during that emergency, and it reopened two hours later.

    ___

    Tucker reported from Washington. Associated Press writers Kimberly Hefling and Ben Nuckols in Washington and Michael Felberbaum and Larry O'Dell in Richmond, Va., contributed to this report.

     
     
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    193 comments

    • WWW.BUYERXPO.COM  •  New York, United States  •  5 mths ago
      My suggession to some of the people those who does not play sense in a better way in a political judgement, they should think 100 times before placeing comments about politician and politics. because people read it,people expect something reasonable to read,which can be fruitfull to reader and society both to explore their talent. Be reasonable to yourself then try to be reasonable to act.Refresh yourself every time while you playing with socio political game.
    • Michelle  •  Springfield, United States  •  5 mths ago
      V Tech strikes again! Another shooting on the campus! SMH. Praying for the students and the victim's families
      • rickp 5 mths ago
        Punk cops deserve what they get.... there will be more of this
      • Catherine 5 mths ago
        Rick the man was a campus police officer, not the type of officer you have in mind, and regardless someone died show some respect.
    • Richard B. Dawson  •  5 mths ago
      Notea the odd elements of this. No names of the officer and shooter. Only 4 hours to clear the scene where evem accident-vehicle homocides take much longer to investigate, photograph, map, and report. Couple that with the quick news cycle and you have -- a drill. This was NOT an actual event.
    • blankety blank blank  •  Southfield, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Doh!
    • ALF  •  Reston, United States  •  5 mths ago
      @ James C.. you would do well to come to grips with reality. I've been studying these things for nearly sixty years.

      Read Charle's essay below. He describes the situation well. About the only reasons that I can think of that you would disagree is if you were just uneducated, perhaps ignorant or maybe cowardly... maybe you're just one of those black and white only, one dimensional thinkers ? ...or perhaps you are yourself, part of the globalist assault on Freedom and America
      ____________________________________________________________________

      My suspicion is that the murder was deliberate "foul play" on the part of those sinister "Globalists", who are located in hidden strategic positions of federal power, who want to try to "stir up" hysteria and mayhem in normally-peaceful places throughout the country, such as college campuses; so as to deliberately cause the hundreds of thousands of young impressionable American college students throughout the country – to begin to be "fearful" of remaining any longer in their dormitories on campus, or fearful of taking any more classes on campus; so as for the Globalists to deliberately create a new generation of "fear-obsessed" young adults who will begin their independent life, after college, with a MIND that is automatically "conditioned" into being "always fearful" of the potential for supposedly increasingly "deadly atmosphere" for unexpected homicides or deadly crime – or TERRORISM; in order for the Globalists to deliberately create a national atmosphere of mass hysteria, and chaos, and perplexity, and confusion; ALL ultimately for the purpose of the Globalists in mentally conditioning a whole NEW upcoming generation young adults who will be most INCLINED to "clamor" for Uncle Sam to "do something" about all this supposedly "increasing violence" taking place even in the most unlikely places for homicides and terrorism to naturally occur; so that the Globalists can PRETEND to the American People that the Federal Government is "indeed" – supposedly – going to "do something" about all of this "new" form of deadly violence; BUT all with a great PRICE..............and that "price" would be for the American People to GIVE UP – or trade in – all of their cherished constitutionally-guaranteed FREEDOMS – for a supposedly “guaranteed” SAFETY by the Federal Government itself; just as Adolph Hitler himself had shrewdly used the same political tactic against the German People, during his short-lived 12-year dictatorial rule of the Third Reich, from 1933 to 1945; with him ruling the German masses with deadly fear and intimidation. And thus – and so, as likewise, today, our Homeland Security in America will try to CONVINCE the nation; that, in order for Uncle Sam to supposedly “SAVE” the our country from all of this unexpected and shocking increasing violence and terrorism that is occurring in place of which we, at first, could never imagine to happen – such as on college campuses; THAT, consequently, in order for the “American People” to get “assurances” from Homeland Security, for supposedly any “permanent” peace-and-safety living conditions; that therefore, the Globalists will succeed in convincing the American People to, in turn, be “willing” to give their total ALLEGIANCE to a new national dictatorial/totalitarian rule of law; that being “Martial Law” throughout the country – or rule by autocracy or authoritarianism. Yes Hitler did it back in the 30's and 40's....... and so, NOW, today – even in the United States, we will soon see the Globalists succeed bringing "Martial Law" to America; and thus, our Homeland Security thugs will usher in a new "age" of DESPOTISM for the so-called "good" of the "Fatherland". Heil Hitler!!!!!!!!
    • Jane  •  Malvern, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Alleged gunman found dead of 27 self inflicted bullet wounds. 74 shells found nearby.
      • ALF 5 mths ago
        That's a fair illustration of what probably happened
    • JimJames  •  5 mths ago
      Where did Bryan's post go? So angry and racist! But not TEA PARTY? HUH?!!?......
      • ALF 5 mths ago
        I think he got powned and was very embarrassed and thus removed it
    • Christopher  •  5 mths ago
      By the way, I carry a concealed weapon myself. I am not required to carry a permit, but I do keep it current anyway. I would never dream of even placing my hand on my weapon unless my wife, my own or another person's life was in peril.
    • Charles  •  Washington, United States  •  5 mths ago
      My suspision is that the murder was deliberate "foul play" on the part of those sinister "Globalists", who are located in hidden strategic positions of federal power, who want to try to "stir up" hysteria and mayhem in normally-peaceful places throughout the country, such as college campuses; so as to deliberately cause the hundreds of thousands of young impressionable American college students throughout the country – to begin to be "fearful" of remaining any longer in their domitories on campus, or feaful of taking any more classes on campus; so as for the Globalists to deliberately create a new generation of "fear-obsessed" young adults who will begin their independent life, after college, with a MIND that is automatically "conditioned" into being "always fearful" of the potential for supposedly increasingly "deadly atmosphere" for unexpected homicides or deadly crime – or TERRORISM; in order for the Globalists to deliberately create a national atmosphere of mass hysteria, and chaos, and perplexity, and confusion; ALL ultimately for the purpose of the Globalists in mentally conditioning a whole NEW upcoming generation young adults who will be most INCLINED to "clamor" for Uncle Sam to "do something" about all this supposedly "increasing violence" taking place even in the most unlikely places for homicides and terrorism to naturally occur; so that the Globalists can PRETEND to the American People that the Federal Government is "indeed" – supposedly – going to "do something" about all of this "new" form of deadly violence; BUT all with a great PRICE..............and that "price" would be for the American People to GIVE UP – or trade in – all of their cherished constitutionally-guaranteed FREEDOMS – for a supposedly “guaranteed” SAFETY by the Federal Government itself; just as Adolph Hitler himself had shrewdly used the same political tactic against the German People, during his short-lived 12-year dictatorial rule of the Third Reich, from 1933 to 1945; with him ruling the German masses with deadly fear and intimidation. And thus – and so, as likewise, today, our Homeland Security in America will try to CONVINCE the nation; that, in order for Uncle Sam to supposedly “SAVE” the our country from all of this unexpected and shocking increasing violence and terrorism that is occurring in place of which we, at first, could never imagine to happen – such as on college campuses; THAT, consequently, in order for the “American People” to get “assurances” from Homeland Security, for supposedly any “permanent” peace-and-safety living conditions; that therefore, the Globalists will succeed in convincing the American People to, in turn, be “willing” to give their total ALLEGIANCE to a new national dictatorial/totalitarian rule of law; that being “Martial Law” throughout the country – or rule by autocracy or authoritarianism. Yes Hitler did it back in the 30's and 40's....... and so, NOW, today – even in the United States, we will soon see the Gobalists succeed bringing "Martial Law" to America; and thus, our Homeland Security thugs will usher in a new "age" of DESPOSM for the so-called "good" of the "Fatherland". Heil Hitler!!!!!!!!
    • JimJames  •  5 mths ago
      Hey, Hey,Hey,Hey, Look at me! Look at me! Don't Listen to the TEA PARTY for God's sake what ever you do. Look at me I will act more stupid to get your attention! For God sake don't Listen to the TEA PARTY!!!!!!!
    • JimJames  •  5 mths ago
      Hey, Hey,Hey,Hey, Look at me! Look at me! Don't Listen to the TEA PARTY for God's sake what ever you do. Look at me I will act more stupid to get your attention! For God sake don't Listen to the TEA PARTY!!!!!!!
      • V H 5 mths ago
        you are an idiot
    • Fair and Balanced  •  Columbus, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Tragedy? You idiots are the dumbest Animals I ever had the displeasure of not being able to spit on. These pigs are nothing but nazis. Filling their prisons with people like willie nelson so they can fill their pockets with gold. Protecting a terrorist govt (making them terrorists themselves if they work for them), using chemical weapons on citizens,
      • Fair and Balanced 5 mths ago
        etc etc etc, I dont have time for you lower subspecies homosapien rejects, Grab a book and learn something on your own, im not the mother who neglected you.
      • Shane 5 mths ago
        This was a traffic stop by a university cop you subspecies mother.
    • Peter  •  Hackensack, United States  •  5 mths ago
      They keep changing the story, they should have said before that certain things were not confirmed, wtf.
    • shelly  •  5 mths ago
      There are so many killers out there, it's an epedemic! At least he's gone now, but he had to take 2 lives with him before his passing, too bad. My sympathy to the families, friends and students, teachers and communities in that area of the country. Don't let this stop you from your life, continue on.
    • menykats  •  Dallas, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Somebody help me out here! From the article, I understood the facts to be: (1) A traffic officer had pulled someone over on campus for a routine traffic stop. (2) An unidentified second party comes upon the scene, and shoots and kills the officer; supposedly for the traffic stop that the second party was not involved in. (3) The unidentified second party was later found shot dead by yet ANOTHER unidentified person. (4) The campus was put on lockdown. Point 4 is understandable. What I DON'T understand is why (assuming that Points 1 and 2 are correct) are so many posters on this board singing the praises of the person who killed the police officer?
    • Bob  •  Portland, United States  •  5 mths ago
      with all the despair in america, maybe this is part of the Obama job creating plan. New hire cop, ambulance and med ex , morgue, autopsy, site clean up....etc.
    • E747hgmu  •  5 mths ago
      Is this place near the hell mouth?
    • JimJames  •  5 mths ago
      OOPS I'm a conservative, I will have to try again-...........TO GET THE TRUTH OUT!!!
    • BOBBYB  •  Lufkin, United States  •  5 mths ago
      I remember the Chinese uprising a few years ago. They were throwing stones at tanks. That was the only thing they had to defend themselve with. Every adult should own arms and ammo.
    • JimJames  •  5 mths ago
      Hey, Hey,Hey,Hey, Look at me! Look at me! Don't Listen to the TEA PARTY for God's sake what ever you do. Look at me I will act more stupid to get your attention! For God sake don't Listen to the TEA PARTY!!!!!!!
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