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    Has the War with Iran Already Begun?

    Two incidents that occurred on Sunday—Iran’s claim of a shoot-down of a U.S. drone, and an explosion outside the British embassy in Bahrain—may have been unrelated. But they appear to add to growing evidence that an escalating covert war by the West is under way against Iran, and that Tehran is retaliating with greater intensity than ever.

    Asked whether the United States, in cooperation with Israel, was now engaged in a covert war against Iran’s nuclear program that may include the Stuxnet virus, the blowing-up of facilities and the assassination or kidnapping of scientists, one recently retired U.S. official privy to up-to-date intelligence would not deny it. 

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    “It’s safe to say the Israelis are very active,” the official said, adding about U.S. efforts:  “Everything that [GOP presidential candidate] Mitt Romney said we should be doing—tough sanctions, covert action and pressuring the international community  -- are all of the things we are actually doing.” Though the activities are classified, a senior Obama administration official also would not deny that such a program was under way. He indicated that the U.S. was not involved in every action, referring to recent alleged explosions at Isfahan and elsewhere. But, he added: “I wouldn’t assume that everything we do is coordinated."

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    Former undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns, who oversaw America’s Iran engagement during the Bush administration, asked Sunday about reports that the U.S. program began under George W. Bush, said he could not comment on intelligence matters.

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    In September, the head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, Fereydoun Abbasi-Davani, accused Great Britain, Israel and the U.S. of conducting attacks on him and other Iranian scientists."Six years ago the intelligence service of the UK began collecting information and data regarding my past, my family, the number of children," Abbasi-Davani told a news conference at the annual conference of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in Vienna. Abbasi-Davani, who was said to have been wounded in 2010 car bomb explosion, said the attacks were carried out by Israel with the "support of the intelligence services of the United States and England."

    Last week, Iranian protesters stormed the British embassy in Tehran. Dominick Chilcott, Britain's ambassador to Iran, later said the attack occurred  "with the acquiescence and the support of the state." Then, on Sunday, Bahrain's interior ministry announced that an explosion occurred inside a minibus parked near the British Embassy. There were no immediate reports of serious damage or injuries.

    U.S. officials alleged in October that agents acting for Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, which has increasingly exerted control over the Tehran regime, were involved in a plot to kill that Saudi ambassador to Washington in a restaurant. Iran denied the allegations. Then, on Sunday, in what have been another escalation, Iran’s news agency reported that Iranian armed forces shot down an unmanned U.S. spy plane that illegally crossed the country's eastern border.

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    Responding to the Iranian report, NATO command in Afghanistan released a terse statement Sunday: "The UAV to which the Iranians are referring may be a US unarmed reconnaissance aircraft that had been flying a mission over western Afghanistan late last week. The operators of the UAV lost control of the aircraft and had been working to determine its status."

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    The White House declined to comment but officials did not seem unduly alarmed, suggesting that the drone's capture would not provide Iran with significant information about U.S. surveillance technology and techniques.

    Trita Parsi, president of the National Iranian American Council in Washington, said the tit-for-tat incidents “add up to a very worrisome picture,” in part because “the Iranians are absorbing all of these assassinations without seeing the pace of their nuclear program slow down to the extent it would be acceptable to the West.” But if Iranian retaliations grow serious enough, he said, they could provide “the pretext for a much larger war” in which the Israelis, and possibly the Americans, launch a full attack on Iran.

    Mark Hibbs, a nuclear expert at the Carnegie Endowment in Germany, says the intensity of the covert war indicates that this is where the U.S. and Israel are putting their energy for now.  “If the U.S. or Israel were determined to take Iran’s nuclear installations out they wouldn’t be wasting time pinpointing individual scientists like this,” he says. Still, he points out, that Israel’s 1981 attack on Iraq’s Osirak reactor was also preceded by assassination attempts on Iraqi scientists.

    By accident or not, it’s entirely possible the covert war could escalate into a real one, experts say.  “I am less enthusiastic about how effective all this going to be than some people in the administration,” says Matthew Bunn, a nuclear investigator at Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government. Bunn says he has occasionally discussed the program with the Obama administration officials, and “some have broadly suggested they think this is major element of slowing down Iranian progress.”

    He’s not so sure. “Take Stuxnet. It’s possible that a thousand centrifuges went down” because of sabotage by the mystery computer virus _ a super sophisticated program said to have caused substantial parts of Iran's uranium enrichment program to self-destruct several years ago. “But Iran has a thousand more than they would require to enrich to highly enriched uranium” needed for a bomb. Bunn also notes that Iran is increasingly keeping its key scientists such as Mohsen Fakrizadeh, said to be the “Oppenheimer” of the Iranian program, hidden away from sight and burying its facilities deeper underground.

    Beyond that, says Hibbs, “Some of the concern in the expert community is that in going this route we’re unleashing forces we cannot control.”

     

    166 comments

    • Time2Mind  •  New York, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Wouldn't be the first time that America's "unleashing forces we cannot control" with a straight face.
    • Billy Bob  •  Atlanta, United States  •  5 mths ago
      I think it's called a Samson Complex....It's the tendency to bring down the walls on your enemy even if it means taking ones self and everybody else with them. ooo/xxx Billy
    • Paul WilliamH  •  5 mths ago
      follow NIKE's motto: JUST DO IT, already!
    • Ronald B  •  Raleigh, United States  •  5 mths ago
      O.k ,enough of this #$%$.. My son has been deployed so many times he does not unpack his deployment Bag. I have begged him to get out in June of 2012 when his enlistment is up..."It's suppose to be a world with out end NOT WAR with out end" I am100% Service connected Nam vet . My Family has been in the US.Military since we came here in 1918.. We are done ... the Marines are RIF 15,000, the Navy 22,500 The Army probably some were between 15 -18,000 troops.. those of us who Have family in the Military are wore out.. as the troops are... let the neo-con chicken hawks join up Rush limbaugh, Glen beck and the rest of those cowards put their kids in the battle Rattle , but, that will never happen... only poor white kids from the south or menitory kids, are keeping the force going , you want another WAR Bring Back the draft so Muffy , Buffy and Fluffy can Go ... But, No the rich will Never risk their kids... " I am sick to death of WAR, It's Glory moonshine,, all War is hell" William T. Sherman
      • Candle 1 5 mths ago
        Ronald. As a Viet Vet I couldn't agree with you more. My trust in my government ended wirth my return with only minor scars for a war based on falsehoods. As you know, back then it wasn't WMD's, it was the "domino theory". It was lie lie back then and still is to this day. I'm oold and retired now, but I still get shakey every time I see yet "another" adminstration "wagging the dog" to draw us into yet another mihndless lie of a war. .
      • Ryan 5 mths ago
        Republicons have the courage of the noncombatant. No more war. Spend the wasted money on America, and getting back to glory days.
      • Akihe 5 mths ago
        My family are in the forces as we are going to war because of stupid zionist eurojews whom don't even read the torah!
    • tax chick  •  5 mths ago
      Iran is not the one to worry about. We'd glass them in a minute. China is the one to worry about!
    • Rex Tom  •  5 mths ago
      Bunker Busters and Daisy Cutters
    • Stephano  •  Phoenix, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Too late. Iran already has the bomb!
      • Johnm 5 mths ago
        And they declared war on the US in 1979.
      • Be Real 5 mths ago
        Having a bomb is not the same as having an A-Bomb!
    • Decleated  •  Erbil, Iraq  •  5 mths ago
      So will Brother Mitt's sons, daughters or grandchildren be signing up to go fight in the "trenches" if we engage in a war with Iran? What about Newt? All of these guys talk tough but have they ever even been in any kind of battle or even a street fight? Served in the armed service? Perhaps if we limited wars to only the senior level government employees of each respective country then my guess is we would have much fewer casualties and far less war.
      • Steve 5 mths ago
        I will
      • ObrTim 5 mths ago
        Steve you are free to buy an airline ticket and go fight and die for Israel. No one is stopping you.
      • Go Figure 5 mths ago
        @decleated, if you are in the service then I thank you for that. I will only say that todays military is all volunteer and that makes it you job. I volunteered and ended up in Nam for over 2 years. I would rather fight them over there than here. No one likes war from any position but two World Wars proved that the world needed to stop stuff before it spread and killed millions like in WW2.
    • Someone Random  •  5 mths ago
      Vote PAUL! Stop all this bull! You're drowning America with debt!!!
      • HAROLD F 5 mths ago
        I agree, Paul will be Barracks savior. Just like Nader was to Bush
      • Medhat Elamir 5 mths ago
        he wont run as an independent. wait and see him win the republican nomination
      • John 5 mths ago
        Ron Paul has my vote.
    • Al  •  Olympia, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Since I'll be over that way in July I'll tell them you say hi. We servicemembers are not unwitting, we know what we sign up for and it is all voluntary, no one makes us join. When you join in times like this, that we've been engaged for so long, you know what you're getting into. There isn't a candidate for president that could pull all the troops home immediately, just like when Obama said he'd close Gitmo, he didn't know all the ramifications and its' still open, these guys don't know it all either.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  5 mths ago
      Iran will get a nuke, Russia will see that this happens. They mite already have it.
    • Tony T  •  Springfield, United States  •  5 mths ago
      No more preemptive wars! Let"s return to following the constitution!
    • Liberty for All  •  5 mths ago
      WE THE PEOPLE !! When Ron Paul is elected We the people must get behind the president by voting in a congress that is supporting the views of the people. I believe Ron Paul supporters will stay involved after the election.WE need to stay engaged in the process of rebuilding this country!!!! We the people have a long road ahead of us. No one person, by themself will succeed.Ron Paul has never given up on us.The United States is Bankrupt!!! To fix this problem, I'm willing to sacrifce, so my grandchidren will not be held responsible for my generations mistakes.Ron Paul is the only Person that has
      the TRUTH!!! and has a Plan to Return our Country to a government for the People By the People.We all need to WAKE up and Face the Facts. Ron Paul 2012"....
    • roman v  •  London, United Kingdom  •  5 mths ago
      This latest insult to the people shows you that we are not in control of our armed forces,they are being used by a foreign power to fight for them,it is up to YOU, THE PEOPLE to put a stop to it,I won`t ask to vote for anyone ,just think of your children when you do.
    • AnthonyP  •  Washington, United States  •  5 mths ago
      1. Seizure of American Embassy in November 1979
      (anyone remember "ayatollah azz-a-whole-a"?
      2. Bombing of Marine barracks in Beirut, October 1983
      3. Kidnapping of 8 Americans in Lebanon throughout the 1980s
      (Terry Anderson, for example)
      4. Constant and repeated attacks on American soldiers in Iraq
      5. Seizure of Royal Marines in International waterway, 2007
      6. Continued pursuit of atomic weapons
      7. Recent overrun of British embassy
      8. Iranian nation run by mullahs and a psychopath for president

      I think we have enough to say that it's about damn time we strike back.
    • Fred  •  Binghamton, United States  •  5 mths ago
      F Iran, deal with them what ever it takes ,nuke them first before its to late
    • Shorecorruption  •  Bricktown, United States  •  5 mths ago
      We have to get another war going.The Senate and Congress make most of there money on insider trading on defense stock.
    • joseph  •  Providence, United States  •  5 mths ago
      The reason behind attacking Iran and all these Middle East countries is because the Islamic world isn't playing along with the One World Gov't scheme. Don't get me wrong im against the Islamic religion, but the U.S. is NOT the world police! We need to get out of the U.N.! I have been deployed to Iraq for a year. Ron Paul pointed out the hypocrisy of all the war-hawks who were draft dodgers during Vietnam but now they want to go and send other peoples kids to war....We are $15 trillion in the hole enough of the deficit spending...There is a war in America right now, it is called unemployment...We are close to economic collapse Hello!
    • joe  •  5 mths ago
      Fastest way to bankrupt a country, is a long drawn out war.Let's do another one!We never learn.
    • Bytme  •  5 mths ago
      I hope not, no more war please, make love instead.
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