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    Wikipedia says it's losing contributors

    HAIFA, Israel (AP) — Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia that is written entirely by volunteers and allows anyone to edit its entries, is losing contributors, its founder complained Thursday.

    Speaking with The Associated Press on the sidelines of the website's annual conference, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales said the nonprofit company that runs the site is scrambling to simplify editing procedures in an attempt to retain volunteers.

    "We are not replenishing our ranks," said Wales. "It is not a crisis, but I consider it to be important."

    Administrators of the Internet's fifth most visited website are working to simplify the way users can contribute and edit material. "A lot of it is convoluted," Wales said. "A lot of editorial guidelines ... are impenetrable to new users."

    Wikipedia has more than 3 million entries but has been marred by subjective entries and pranks. Even so, Wikipedia cites studies that compare the website's accuracy favorably to more conventional encyclopedias, while other studies give it lower marks.

    Despite Wikipedia's wide-reaching popularity, Wales said the typical profile of a contributor is "a 26-year-old geeky male" who moves on to other ventures, gets married and leaves the website. Other contributors leave because, 10 years after the website was launched, there are fewer new entries to add, he said.

    By March, Wikipedia had about 90,000 active contributors. The goal is to tack on another 5,000 by June of next year, said Sue Gardner, executive director of the nonprofit that runs the website.

    Among its steps, Gardner said the nonprofit is expanding a program that encourages university professors to assign the writing of Wikipedia entries to their students, particularly in India, Brazil, Canada, Germany and Britain.

    The website has also introduced a new feature called WikiLove aimed at keeping users engaged. Visitors to the website select a graphic icon — choices include kittens, stars and the Mediterranean dessert baklava — and send it with a message of appreciation to a page contributor as encouragement. "It's like a 'like' on Facebook," Wales said.

    The seventh annual Wikipedia conference, hosted this year in Israel, was attended by some 650 Wikipedia contributors and enthusiasts from 56 countries. Two contributors attended from Venezuela and Indonesia, though neither country has diplomatic relations with Israel. A Palestinian from the West Bank also attended, with Israeli military permission.

    Wikipedia's leaders assured the audience that the website's reputation is strong — no longer drawing the ire of teachers and journalists claiming that its entries are unreliable.

    "Making fun of Wikipedia is so 2007," Gardner said to a cheering crowd, quoting what a French journalist recently told her.

    Even so, Wales said Wikipedia must be used with care.

    "Particularly be careful if we say 'the neutrality of this article is disputed,' or 'the following section doesn't cite any sources.' That's probably a good warning," he said.

     

    50 comments

    • The Old Medic  •  9 mths ago
      Wikipedia's worst fault is that ANYONE can put ANYTHING on that site. It is NOT difficult to edit an article at all.

      A lot of good information is mixed in what a lot of pure crap. The problem is, the public doesn't know the difference between truth and fiction.
      • Dale 9 mths ago
        If people are going there to learn something new, why would they know it already? Douche.
      • jay 9 mths ago
        'the neutrality of this article is disputed and also 'the preceding section doesn't cite any sources.
      • E. Lee 9 mths ago
        Excellent point, The Old Medic. There's a lotta garbage up on Wikipedia, and there's far too little time to invest in correcting all of it in exchange for nothing.
    • Not Me  •  9 mths ago
      The "26-year old geeky males" are now all either (a) extremely overworked in their post-downsizing IT support jobs and have not got the time to volunteer for wiki, or (b) their job got outsourced to China, so they are sullen and unemployed or working in fast food.
      • J C 9 mths ago
        Probably the most insightful comment about what really makes Wikiworld run.
    • jay  •  9 mths ago
      The biggest problem with wikipedia is the same problem as any discussion forum, to include this one, opinion. People post things from a certain point of view in order to support their personal opinions on matters, sometime regardless of the fact involved.

      So again 'the neutrality of this article is disputed and also 'the following section doesn't cite any sources. This is the norm on the internet, If you plan to research something don't use a limited number of sources.

      This doesn't detract from the usefulness of Wikipedia, or other opinion based forums, a rounded opinion cannot be formed when learning from only one angle. This is how life is, people are controlled this way regularly. A wise person will withhold judgement until enough data is gathered to make a proper decision. Even then one must be open to new information, even if it forces a major shift in the perception held by the individual.
      • Lost 9 mths ago
        Jay, you've nailed it. "A wise person will withhold judgment until enough data is gathered to make a proper decision."
        But most are jumping to conclusions and groveling to the internet gospel.
    • Ke  •  9 mths ago
      I am living on a tiny savings. The biggest cash donation I made in recent years ($20) went to Wikipedia to express my appreciation toward it.
      To me, Wikipedia's merit is in that it touches almost everything, and provides entrant-level descriptive information about them. From there I can go further to more specialized / professional sources if I do need more accuracy and details. But in most cases, Wikipedia seems already good enough to me.
    • Doug S  •  9 mths ago
      I used to do a lot of editing on wp; though I am a geek I am well over 26. But it became very tiresome, and I rarely do anything any more. There are too many overeager, overzealous people who revert and amend anything you say, and even if your point of view is correct it generally takes a long heated argument to 'win' in the end, and someone's feelings always wind up getting hurt.

      Several years ago I spent a fair amount of time, over the course of several days, improving the entry on "soldering", which is a specialty of mine since I am an Electronics Engineer, talented and well-educated in the subject. I took it from a neglected, poorly maintained entry to a reasonably encyclopedic, pretty well written entry -- not ready for featured status or anything, but if you needed information on soldering it was all there.

      But I got tired of 'defending' my edits, I've left the entry alone for quite a while now, and without my input it's degenerated quite a bit. It's overly wordy, with lots of random and irrelevant stuff in it, inaccurate information, and overall it's not as useful as it once was. Without an expert like myself it's become less than it was....and I'm not going to police it any more, I'm just tired of it.
    • Mr. Mr.  •  9 mths ago
      We'll you Tech guys have conditioned a whole generation (s) to expect FREE!! . . . if you don't provide it they will go elsewhere.
    • alexander card  •  9 mths ago
      Wikipedia has contributed one of the largest centralized knowledge bases of information in the history of mankind and it's detractors have done nothing. I can't overstate how much I personally have benefitted from it much less billions of other people around the globe.
      • yahoo user 9 mths ago
        You do know that Wikepedia isnt a valid source of information? Or you just believe whatever you read on the internet to be true?
      • Leonardo 9 mths ago
        Wikipedia is all about quantity, not quality. It is not a reliable source on anything that is the least bit controversial. The fact that millions (not billions) of people use it doesn't mean it's good ... it's just cheap and easy. You get what you pay for.
      • Peter B 9 mths ago
        Why do people totally misunderstand what Wikipedia is and isn't, and then get all up in arms about it? Of course it's a valid source of information you idiots, but it is not the only source, nor is there any source that does not have a bias or that could possibly be wrong or incomplete. It's like reading books has become so rare that people tend to worship words on paper as absolutely correct and unimpeachable.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  9 mths ago
      Yeah try to use Wikipedia as a source in a college paper an see where it gets you. For a company that claims it is just as accurate as any other encyclopedia, they don't understand that you can cite Encyclopedias when writing, but not Wikipedia.
      • Fuzzy Dunlop 9 mths ago
        it's a nonprofit not a "company" and they never claimed any such thing. I'm guessing citing Wikipedia isn't the reason you failed out of junior college and became a janitor
      • Me 9 mths ago
        I have seen many things posted on Wikipedia that were wrong, based on the contributor's misinterpretation of something, or they used an abbreviated version of an explanation that distorts the big picture. That may account for why it is not an acceptable college refernce material.
        That being said, I use wikipedia for many things to look something up. Contributors link their references, so you can read the whole source story, not just the the section posted on wikipedia. It can also give you a direction to start on to look up more material on the item in question. It is good reference material, just not the end-all-be-all.
      • Peter B 9 mths ago
        Then you are not using Wikipedia correctly. It is a place to read up on something and then FOLLOW THE CITATION LINKS if you need something in hardcopy.
    • MEL  •  9 mths ago
      It isn't wikipedia's fault that the world is overloaded with smart arsed degenerates who are total imbeciles who take pleasure in crapping over everything they see
    • Jocelyn Ruiz  •  9 mths ago
      The contributers sometimes wrote things on the website that are not even true.
    • KP  •  9 mths ago
      There's a good reason why this is happening. Wikipedia won't allow many legitimate entries to be posted. Last year I created a page about a non-profit collectors organization that serves a certain area of the East Coast. Wikipedia's stupid editors kept deleting my page, saying it was too much of an advertisement or something like that. There was nothing advertorial about the page. Our club doesn't make a profit and the page I created was an information page that detailed a group that has been serving the community for more than 50 years. So Wikipedia, before you go complaining, don't blame anyone but yourself!!!
    • RMAN  •  9 mths ago
      Wikipedia is quite politically biased and is very much controlled by a small group of individuals who get their opinion printed as fact.
    • D  •  9 mths ago
      wikiidia is not a reliable source
    • John Smith  •  9 mths ago
      They are controlled by corporations who hire individuals to post corporate trash as fact. To heck with Wikipedia. Check out the trash about aspartame as a for instance......
    • TomB  •  9 mths ago
      It is noteworthy that virtually all of the editors wishing to see fair and balanced treatment of articles concerned with frontier subjects have been driven off by the skeptical editors. This has resulted in a decidedly mainstream representation of subjects like energy healing and what the skeptics call "pseudoscience." Readers should always read the history and talk pages to see how stable the article is. Even then, only use Wikipedia as a study guide. After all, that science article may have been written by a ten-year old hiding behind a screen name while doing a homework assignment.
    • Curtis W. R  •  9 mths ago
      Making fun of wikipedia is very up-to-dated
    • J C  •  9 mths ago
      They deserve to go under. From insisting that the name of the emperoro of Japan in World War II is NOT Hirohito to insiting that the name of the king on Shakespeare's play Macbeth is NOT Macbeth...well, you can see what I mean. The "editors" are twits, and this guy is looking to add 5,000 more to his ranks.
    • CoolWisdomPrevails  •  9 mths ago
      I use Wikipedia a lot. Couple months ago I looked around to find an address where
      I could send a contribution. Never did find one.

      Also tried to add something to an article once, but couldn't figure out how to do it.
      But then, I wasn't born in the computer age. When I was born we didn't have
      ball point pens.
    • Steve  •  9 mths ago
      I had cataract surgery oin 2006, and had a new IOL (artificial lens) implanted. Older implants would not focus, but the new (FDA approved in 2003) accomodating lens (a device, unlike older ones) gives me better than 20/20 vision at all distances after wearing thick glasses all my life (although my results are atypical, most get vision between 20/20 and 20/25). I added information about this new device to the article on cataract surgery, and it was edited out after less than a day; my guess is by one of the companies competing with its manufacturer edited it out. That was the last time I triued editing Wikipedia.

      And Wales can't figure out why people won't contribute?
    • Inachu  •  9 mths ago
      I tried to add extra info missing from a page (just more technical mumbo jumbo) about a now dead company and I used to work there but the info was deleted even though it was neutral.

      I stopped visiting wikipedia after that.
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