Activists on defunding the police: ‘We’re not talking about Gotham without Batman’

Portland City Commissioner Jo Ann Hardesty and Brittany Packnett Cunningham join Ali Velshi to discuss how the conversation around “Defund the Police” continues to evolve. Commissioner Hardesty says, “There’s a big difference between redirecting public resources and totally eliminating the police.” Packnett Cunningham adds, “We’re ultimately talking about re-envisioning public safety.”