Legal expert: Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes is done and looking for way out

Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes may become “plead out” and become a Jan. 6 probe cooperating witness legal expert Glenn Kirschner says. Kirschner and MSNBC analyst Charlie Sykes also join Joy Reid to discuss the January 6th committee finally hearing from the man who had a front-row seat to Donald Trump's effort to steal the election--Pat Cipollone, former White House Counsel.