Liz Cheney on Ron DeSantis, Mike Pence testifying to Jan. 6 panel and her own future

Wyoming Republican Rep. Liz Cheney, in a wide-ranging interview that aired Sunday, said she had no regrets about how she ran her congressional campaign or rejecting false claims that might have gotten her reelected.

"I think that it was clear really from, you know, the beginning, the moment that I voted to impeach, that there, you know, were going to be potential political consequences," Cheney, the vice chair of the House's Jan. 6 committee, told Jonathan Karl on ABC News' "This Week."

Cheney said she is "sad about where my party is" and expressed disappointment that "so many people have failed" the "great moral test" of upholding democracy.

Several Republican candidates who have attempted to court former President Donald Trump's base have either cast doubt or outright denied the result of the 2020 election.

Cheney said her attention going forward is squarely on defeating anyone who does not believe in the outcome of the last presidential contest.

"I think that they – we've got election deniers that have been nominated for really important positions all across the country," she said. "And I'm going to work against those people, I'm going to work to support their opponents; I think it matters that much."

Here's what else Cheney had to say on a potential presidential bid in 2024, Trump, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and more.

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Cheney on a 2024 White House bid

The morning after her loss to in the Wyoming Republican primary to Trump-backed candidate Harriet Hageman, Cheney suggested she is considering a run for the White House in 2024.

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"I haven't made any specific decisions or plans about that at this point," she told ABC News, when asked whether she would run under the GOP banner.

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She would not speculate further on whether she'd campaign as an independent.

Cheney, the daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney, a pillar in GOP politics for decades, told Karl that she would run not just to send a message about what she believes, but to win.

"Look, you run for president because you believe you would be the best – the best candidate, because you believe you'd be the best president of the United States," she said. "And so, any decision that I make about doing something that significant and that serious would be with the intention of winning and because I think I would be the best candidate."

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Cheney on the RNC's reaction to her potential presidential bid

Cheney acknowledged the Republican National Committee wasn't warmly greeting the possibility she'd run for the White House.

"I can understand why they would not want me on a debate stage with Donald Trump," she said. "I can understand why they wouldn't want it, and I would imagine Donald Trump isn't too interested in that either."

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Cheney on Mike Pence testifying to the Jan. 6 committee

Cheney may be leaving Congress but she still serves as vice chair of the Jan. 6 committee, which has held a series of public hearings this summer.

She said the special panel has been in talks with legal counsel for former Vice President Mike Pence, who she says "played a critical role on January 6th."

Pence on Wednesday said he would "consider" testifying before the panel if asked.

Cheney noted that while she didn't see those comments, "it sounds like they were pretty similar to what his counsel has been saying."

She acknowledged Pence has "concerns about executive privilege." She said that while she respects those concerns, "I also think that when the country has been through something as grave as this was, everyone who has information has an obligation to step forward. So I would hope that he will do that."

Will he testify when the committee resumes public hearings next month?

"Well, I would hope that he will understand how important it is for the American people to know every aspect of the truth about what happened that day," Cheney said.

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Cheney on Kevin McCarthy

Asked whether House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy should become the next speaker of the House, should Republicans take back the chamber in November's midterm elections, Cheney did not mince words: "Well, my views about Kevin McCarthy are very clear."

Noting the speaker is in the presidential line of succession, Cheney said McCarthy is not fit for the role: "He's been completely unfaithful to the Constitution and demonstrated a total lack of understanding of the significance and the importance of the role of speaker. So I don't believe he should be speaker of the House."

Cheney on Ron DeSantis

Asked about whether she would oppose a potential presidential candidacy of DeSantis, Cheney put the Florida governor in the camp of those who don't support the 2020 outcome.

"I think that DeSantis is somebody who is, right now, campaigning for election denier," she said. "And I think that, you know, that is something that I think people have got to have real pause about. You know, either you fundamentally believe in and will support our constitutional structure, or you don't."

Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., speaks to supporters at a primary night event Tuesday in Jackson, Wyoming. Cheney conceded her loss in the Wyoming GOP primary.
Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., speaks to supporters at a primary night event Tuesday in Jackson, Wyoming. Cheney conceded her loss in the Wyoming GOP primary.

Cheney on what's next

First up for Cheney, the vice chair and one of two Republicans on the House committee investigating the attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 is completing that work, she said.

She has also started a political organization to fight those who deny the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

"I'm going to be very focused on working to ensure that we do everything we can not to elect election deniers," she said. "I think that they – we've got election deniers that have been nominated for really important positions all across the country. And I'm going to work against those people, I'm going to work to support their opponents; I think it matters that much."

Cheney on reaction to her reelection loss

Among those Cheney heard from following her Tuesday defeat to Hageman: President Joe Biden.

"We had a very – a very good talk, a talk about the importance of putting the country ahead of partisanship," Cheney said of Biden.

Cheney on the 10 Republicans who voted to impeach Trump

The Wyoming Republican was one of 10 to vote to impeach Trump in his second trial in January 2021, following the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6. She says that vote has she and her nine colleagues linked together in perpetuity.

"We have difference of opinion – differences of opinion, among the 10 of us, about a whole range of issues – of other issues," she said. But the fact that we all made the decision we did and have faced the consequences for that decision will be a bond, I would imagine, forever."

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