Mariesol says that after her niece, D’Lanny Chairez, refused to say where her son, James, was for months, D’Lanny then claimed that she had placed the 18-month-old for adoption. During a conversation, which Mariesol says she secretly recorded, D’Lanny says, “It’s a clean slate for him, and he doesn’t have to worry about who his dad is or who I am.” The child’s father, Matthew James Dempsy, and maternal grandmother, Patricia Flores, are each serving prison sentences for convictions on unrelated murder charges. Mariesol says she didn’t believe that D’Lanny, who disappeared shortly after that conversation, had placed her child with another couple, as she claimed. After reporting the pair missing to authorities, she says she went in search of D’Lanny and “Baby James,” only to find something alarming inside their San Antonio home. Hear more from the recorded conversation between D’Lanny and Mariesol in the video above. This Dr. Phil daytime exclusive, “’What Happened To Baby James?’” airs Friday. Check your local listing to find out where to watch. Update: On April 28, 2021, authorities in San Antonio, Texas, reportedly recovered human remains inside the trailer park where James Avi Chairez lived with his mother, D’Lanny Chairez. According to news reports, the family has confirmed the remains are those of “Baby James.” D’Lanny Chairez, 20, was arrested in March on suspicion of abandoning or endangering a child and indicted earlier in April by a grand jury on charges of tampering with evidence. It is currently unknown whether further charges against her are pending. WATCH: Great-Aunt Of ‘Baby James’ Chairez Claims The Child’s Mother Said She’d Placed Him For Adoption TELL DR. PHIL YOUR STORY: Have a story in the news?
DR. PHIL: Why did you record a conversation with her?
- Because she was already a little sketchy, and I wanted to make sure that what she was telling me was going to be something that she was going to stick to. Her being of character the way she was, it didn't make any sense to me. So the only right thing to do was to record the conversation. But she couldn't recant anything that she said or said, oh, no, you're saying whatever you want to say. I didn't say that.
DR. PHIL: OK, we'll listen to that in just a second. But when you say out of character, when you saw the house the way it was, that's not the way she lived. Correct?
- Correct. No, she was a very neat person, always cleaning.
DR. PHIL: How long before since you had been in the house before you saw it the way you saw it on that day?
- Well, I hadn't been into the house in a while. I would say the last time was maybe in August. I didn't have a reason to go in. Every time she'd call me to pick her up, I would just tell her, OK, I'm almost there, and she'd be waiting for me
DR. PHIL: OK.
- But my brother-in-law was there in November.
DR. PHIL: And what did he note?
- Nothing. He said everything was fine in November.
DR. PHIL: OK, so--
- That was for Thanksgiving.
DR. PHIL: So whatever happened in terms of that place deteriorating between what you saw and the way you say she normally lived, that deterioration was between the end of November and the middle of February when you were in there.
DR. PHIL: So in that three and a half months, it went from normal to what you found, some way.
- In some way, yes. That room that all that stuff is in was a room that she wasn't using anymore, but my brother-in-law said he didn't really smell anything out of the ordinary. He didn't go into the room, because she wouldn't allow him. It was always locked.
DR. PHIL: All right, and when you recorded her, you wanted to talk to her, and she said she didn't want to do it at the house. She wanted to do it in the car. Let's listen to the conversation you had with her.
- Where's James?
- I put him up for adoption.
- No, D'Lanny.
- Yes, I did. Mari, I can't--
- D'Lanny, why didn't you let me have him?
- I'm sorry, but-- because--
- What is wrong?
- Nothing's wrong. It's just I can't.
- It's not right, D'Lanny.
- I know it's not right, but he's fine. He's in a house, and he's--
- Don't, don't.
- I'm sorry, but I'm-- when he's with you, he's still here.
- So what?
- He deserves something just new, and--
- No, I can't believe you did that.
- I knew, if I had told you what I was doing and what I was going to do to him, that would have just talked me out of it.
- Yeah, but we could have kept him. We could have kept him. Why did you do that?
- He needed somewhere just stable and just--
- Oh, and we're not stable?
- No, that's not what I'm saying. It's just he needs-- he needs two parents and a life, where he doesn't have to just question things.
- I can't believe you did that. A whole year that he--
- I couldn't. I knew I couldn't be a mom, and I tried my hardest to tell y'all.
- D'Lanny, I was always offering. I was always offering to help you. I always offered, and then I'd tell you like, we could pick him up. You had help. There options there.
- It's a clean slate for him, and he doesn't have to worry about who his dad is or who I am. Matthew has an ownership over me, because my name is completely smeared. You look up my name, and you get him. And then it doesn't take long before you figure out who my mom is and who my brothers are. I was that kid growing up, and it just-- it's not a good feeling.
DR. PHIL: You're asking her right then, what happened? She says, I put him up for adoption, and you said, no, no, you didn't. At that point, she breaks down and starts crying, right?
- No, that's me crying. She didn't cry at all.
DR. PHIL: And you said, why didn't you let me have him? What did she say?
- She said that because, if he's with me, he's still here.