During "No Layups," Mattress Mack and Trae tha Trurth explained the challenges they faced while trying to help people in crisis.
DAVID NUÑO: A formal introduction today, Raheel, because we've got ourselves a star studded guest list, with Trae tha Truth and Mattress Mack joining the show. We're kind of focusing on sports at some point, but really it's what our city is going through. I like the reversal there.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: I hit you with the reverse, yeah, because you're normally on the left on my screen. How are you doing, man? I know it's-- stop really don't matter right now. I guess there was a Rockets game last night that not many people watched because so many of us were still without power last night. And it's just been-- I mean, it's just been scary. That's the only word I can describe what the last few days have been for so many of our brothers and sisters in the city of Houston.
And there's just more important things to talk about today, and we're going to get different perspectives. As you mentioned, Mattress Mack is going to be joining us, who's-- again, he steps up for the city of Houston. Opens up both of his big locations-- right there off the Grand Parkway and, of course, his original location for people to come in and warm up because of the lack of power, what happened with the grid and ERCOT. And there's so much to break down there.
And then we had Trae tha Truth. You know, he joined us a little bit earlier. I've already shared a clip regarding what's happening right now with Senator Ted Cruz. And Trae did not hold back at all. And man, I mean, he's out there with the community, giving back. He always is, and it was interesting to hear his perspective as well.
DAVID NUÑO: Yeah, man. And Raheel, I made the mistake again of not adding you on the No Layups tweet, so it's out there.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: It's OK.
DAVID NUÑO: I didn't even put ABC 13 on it. I was trying to get the show going. But look, I think we both have been blessed throughout this whole process. We haven't had it that bad. We've got the water boil going on in the Greatwood, Sugar Land area that we live in. I know you guys have had some power issues.
We did not have power issues, but my older parents certainly did have some power issues. And I know the entire city has been rocked. Greg Bailey had power issues-- Joe Gleason in our sports department. I'm just talking about here. Some people went, what? 72 hours or close to that without power.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah.
DAVID NUÑO: Sort of Sunday night though Monday morning, through all of yesterday. It's-- here's the part I struggle with. I know social media is a place to point fingers. And I think this time, there's actually a lot of fingers you can point. It is-- because sometimes things happen that we just get mad to get mad on social media.
This is actually a time where the fourth largest city in the world-- the ERCOT, the infrastructure. I don't know who to blame, but everybody's to blame. But also, time and time again, we see the resiliency of Houston, Texas coming through and real leaders stepping up, some who aren't elected leaders, some people who just want to do it, you know.
They wear the cape on the back of their backs to help, but they're not looking for it. You know, we're going to hear from a lot of people throughout the show, I'm sure, on social and whatnot. It's been tough, man. It's been very tough.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah, and the hardest part about this is, you know, with Hurricane Harvey, when that hit in 2017, it was devastating, right? There's no other way to put it. It was-- whole homes were destructed, disappeared in a matter of seconds, right? But you could still get around and go help people during the hardest times that they were suffering, right?
DAVID NUÑO: Right.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: This one, come Sunday night-- you know, you and I were in contact the whole day. We had the No Layups episode. Sunday night hits, Monday morning hits, power goes out for people-- Sunday night through, I mean, last night. And you couldn't go do anything until yesterday midday, roughly, because the roads were iced up. You had to follow the directions of government officials, that stay at home because the roads are bad.
So you couldn't even go help people, which was the hard thing. And even if you could go help people, there's really nothing you can do outside of bringing blankets and water. And it was tough, man. Like, that was hard. So I'm glad Trae was able to get out there and do some stuff and give some food. It was devastating, man.
It's scary how fast things turned, and we had a heads up on this. That's the part that's frustrating, is we-- you know, we were talking about it on Thursday, right? We were talking about, like, hey, look, this could be dangerous. ABC 13 has done a great job. The whole team there at Channel 13 with meteorologists leading the way, we knew this was going to happen, that this was going to be dangerous.
I've been getting alerts from my power company, like, hey, start conserving power now. Look, this is an event. This is going to happen. And yet, here we are, and people were still without power in the toughest times that I can imagine. It's scary, man. It's scary.
DAVID NUÑO: I got to give you props. You do inspire me a little bit, and I don't like giving you a lot of props, Raheel, because I think you give yourself enough. But you were always tweeting out information, where there's help out there or restaurants that are open, what you need to do if your pipes burst. I mean, you are always thinking of others. And I think that's kind of the-- if there is a beauty in what is happening right now-- if there is one, that's the beauty.
And we've seen it time and time again in this community, of how people love to give. I remember-- look, I'm gonna get some hate mail for this. There was a flood-- I don't remember which flood. It was before I was at Channel 13, so it was a while back-- living in the Bear Creek area.
And I remember all of Bear Creek was flooded, and I was taking a nap on my couch. And Elizabeth, my wife, comes down and says, hey, all the neighbors are helping move stuff. And I'm like, man, for real? Like, I was thinking lazy. Like, I was thinking like, now?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah.
DAVID NUÑO: And I was like-- so it did kind of empower me to like, hey, I got to go do something. I can't have this 86 neighbor of mine moving trees out of the way and shoveling water and whatnot. And I remember, like, being, at first, like, oh, here we go. Because I don't think I had absorbed the moment, and then you see the totality of the water.
And that was not one of our worst floods. Bear Creek floods all the time, for the record. That's when I used to live out there. There are so many great people in this community that I do think inspire people to do more than they might normally do. And then there are others that are looking for shortcuts.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah, to me, like, look, I've always been in that mindset that if you're fortunate enough, give back, right? And again, you and I have been very fortunate through this. And all I could do was-- like, I couldn't get out. I couldn't drive. So I just walked around my neighborhood starting Monday because that's how I am, and my wife gets so frustrated.
I'll just walk around, and I'm like knocking on people-- hey, do you need anything? Are you good? And when I saw that-- so in our neighborhood, a couple of people, they had issues with their pipes in the garage bursting, right? So I went around and knocked on everyone's door on my street that I could. I'm like, hey, I know your pipes are frozen. Did you turn off your main valve? Because I don't want you to go through this because people in our neighborhood are going through this right now.
So you give back as much as you can, right? And we've been fortunate that we have a following on social media, so why not use it, right? Why not use it for something? Even if one person sees it and benefits, then that's great. People were without service, and I saw your story yesterday on Channel 13.
That's the other part of this. Like, service goes out. There's no power. There's no water. And then on top of that, because of the conditions, towers freezing, whatever it may be, there's no service, so like there's no communication with the outside world outside of maybe a text message that comes through. And even those weren't coming through.
DAVID NUÑO: Yeah. And look, we forget how important-- I mean, my story had looked at a three pronged effect-- A, how was it affecting people? B, what you could do in that kind of moment-- and also, we heard from the mobile companies, the cell phone companies-- Verizon and AT&T in that particular story-- and also from the youngsters, right? And how teenagers who are so used to using their cell phones for everything, how they were affected by it. You're making a look with your eye that Mack might be ready.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: All right, let me see. No, he's still not-- he's still not there yet.
DAVID NUÑO: Oh, I saw your eyes kind of fixating on the screen. I'm like, ah. So when I do the show from the studio, for those who care, I don't have the same view as I do from my laptop, where I could see all the behind the scene things. But hey, did you find yourself-- because I found myself doing this often. I kept on thinking to myself, there is no way my pipes-- because mine have not burst as of yet.
And I think, if I made it this far, maybe I'll make it. Who knows, right? But I kept on thinking, man, that could have been a pipe-- every little bit of water I would hear. And I did checks throughout the house several times. I went in the attic. And I almost role played with myself. I know to turn off the water valve, but do I actually know how to turn off the water valve?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Nope.
DAVID NUÑO: Sounds like an easy thing, but like you should like really role play during these situations because in a moment of panic, you might find yourself struggling with that.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah, and that's the thing. Like, going into this, the hard freeze, right? Nobody anticipated we'd be without power for this long, especially so many people, right? Like, I think most of us were like, OK, it's going to be cold. Hunker down. It will be a couple of days. We'll be back to normal. Once the ice starts melting, we'll be fine.
But nobody anticipated the houses will be without heat, thus not getting heat up into the attic, pipes freezing. And then when they do start returning back to normal and melting, the water pressure just taking off. Like, I didn't know that. Like, I didn't know-- if you lose power, you got to go turn off your main valve because if your pipes freeze and the water's still running, guess what happens? You're going to have that pressure build up and boom, thermal expansion, and you're done.
So nobody knew that, and that's the scary part. I'm with you. Like, I haven't slept. Like, I'm waking up every couple of hours. I think we're in the clear. I saw a tweet last night that there's no high freezing events last night. I think we're going to be in the 20s tonight for like four to five hours, so we might have to-- we might have to find the tweets and get with our meteorologists to figure out like, hey, what's the-- what's the plan for tonight?
But I'm with you, man. Like, I'm checking. I'm walking around before I go to bed. I'm waking up every couple hours with the flashlight, just walking around, making sure there's no leaks, going up in the attic. Again, I told you my neighbor Chris helped me out big time with the pool noodle trick. And that might have saved us.
I had a scare yesterday. So in our sprinkler system, I mean, I've turned the back flow off like a month and a half ago. I do it as soon as winter starts because I hate that backflow blowing. So I walk around, do my daily checks and making sure everything's good. And there's just a pool of water. So I'm panicking, and I'm calling my guy Travis, who hooked me up and put the sprinkler system in.
And I'm like, yo, what am I supposed to do? Like, there's a bunch of water pooling, and I don't know. He's like, is your water meter going crazy? I was like, no, it's fine. And he goes, it's probably just a snow and ice melting, and it has nowhere to go because the ground is so saturated. Just relax. And I'm like, are you sure, man? Because there's a lot of water.
He goes, yes. Is there a lot of ice still? Yes. And he goes, it's just melting. Just take a deep breath. I think it's OK. If not, give us a call. We'll figure it out. But you know, that's the thing. A lot of people were not prepared for this day. We didn't know, right? We didn't know any better. If the power goes out, go ahead and turn off that main valve.
DAVID NUÑO: As we're waiting for Mattress Mack to join us here-- a couple of big stories that are out there. I don't know if you saw Josh Reddick's wife posting that they had some pipes burst at their house-- one of the houses they're trying to move from. I'm going to pick up her tweet, if I can. But it has affected so many people. Let me see if I can read it. When it rains, it pours. Literally, 2021 sucks. And she's got a video out of how the pipes all burst in their house-- water draining everywhere.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Man.
DAVID NUÑO: You know to share these things better than I can. If you get a second, try to share that.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah.
DAVID NUÑO: So people can see that tweet. I got to log in. It's just hard to log in from the work account, but it has affected so many different people. And it is a national story, too. I've been hearing from people all around the country. Like, we have a lot of family in South Florida asking us, are you guys making it? It's not just the temperature. It's what happens, the aftermath of the temperatures. And we joke.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah.
DAVID NUÑO: You know, I do a lot of joking, and this is a serious matter. But when I was doing my hits on Sunday night-- I was doing some live hits. Joe Gleason and I were talking about it earlier. His hit before mine, and they were doing a snowball fight, right? And I had sleet in my house. I was trying to make a sleet man with like two little pebbles of sleet. That's all I had.
So at that point, it hadn't hit me. This is such a personal story. Everybody's hit differently, but everyone has been hit in this community in some way, shape, or form-- if it's the way you commute to work, if you can't get to work, you can't get to school, you have no power. Everybody knows somebody who didn't have power for an extended period of time-- not a couple of hours, an extended period of time.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah, that's the scary part, man. It was-- some people got lucky. Some people did not. And over 4 million people in the state of Texas were without power, again, during the coldest weather we've seen in such a long time. And that's-- that's heartbreaking, mean. Nobody should have to go through that. And then we saw the aftermath, as you mentioned, from that lack of energy, lack of power in the homes. Families have to go sleep in cars.
We've had tragic deaths already-- just so many tragic deaths because people were sleeping in their car with carbon monoxide poisoning. It's-- it's been a collapse, man. It's been a disaster so far. And hopefully we can learn from it.
I guess that's like the little thing we can take away from this, is that there's things put into place to prevent this, right? And there's a big investigation into this, figuring out how we can avoid this. But it's been heartbreaking, and there's nothing else-- you know, there's nothing else to say regarding that.
DAVID NUÑO: Were you able to get Georgette's tweet?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: No, I couldn't pull it up because I have the Trae the Truth interview pulled up, so I can't double share, unfortunately. But I saw it, man. That's scary. Julian Morales, by the way, who joined us just last week on No Layups, she's been going through it, man. Like, they've been bouncing house to house, and they have a newborn, a four-month-old, that you can't do anything. Like, literally, you go to somebody's house-- power goes out. You come back home-- power goes out, right? So there's nothing you can do. That's the scary part.
DAVID NUÑO: Yeah. I just sent a text out to Mack's groups. I'll let you know once we hear back from them. He should be joining, though, momentarily. We will run the Trae tha Truth interview, I guess, right after we run the Mack interview as we're waiting for him. We did interview Trae early. So if we run into any problems, we'll run that first, Raheel.
But also, as I'm getting my notes ready, we have, what? NFL players donating to the city of Houston with meals. And just again, we're talking about how the community is stepping up. It's also nice to see some of the bigger names-- and even names you've never heard of in the NFL stepping up to help out.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah, that's one of the great things that is highlighted from this, as you mentioned, especially with the city of Houston. So many people that, you know, whether you've been hurt by this or you haven't, people are giving back.
You mentioned the NFL side of things. The Houston Dynamo and the Houston Dash, they've done a great thing where they are raising funds right now to help out and donate to agencies and charities and foundations that will help provide meals to people that can't access it.
Here's the other part of this, right? The grocery stores are out of food now, you know? They're trying to stock up. They're trying to get back up. But yesterday, you saw so many stories-- Roxie was out there at the Kroger on Buffalo Speedway, and I mean, the shelves were wiped clean.
There's nothing else left, right? Until the restock happens-- and the roads are open now, hopefully. So that can happen. But so many community members, whether they be athletes, musicians, artists-- they're doing great things, man. And there's a lot of work left to be done right now.
DAVID NUÑO: Here's a couple of different ones-- Kid Meals Inc-- they tweeted out, thank you to our heroes, the Texans, for their generous donation that will deliver more than 12,500 free, healthy meals directly to the homes of hungry children who have been without power and water and haven't received our meals in a week due to the winter storm crisis-- so the Texans stepping up. The story I was talking about earlier is from Pierre Desir from the Ravens giving back and donating 10,000 meals to the Houston Food Bank, so people stepping up all over the place.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah, that's great. And you know, Austin and Dallas right now-- they still haven't recovered, by the way. There are a lot of people still without power, and they just got hit with a snowstorm again. That's-- like, and it's not over yet. We still have two more days of this. And luckily, there is power restored for a lot of people, and I know some people are still without it. So maybe the next few days are a little bit better, but man, it's scary.
I do want to highlight one thing. Did you see this? I was telling you a little bit earlier about it, but Beto O'Rourke, the former Senator candidate who ran against Ted Cruz-- and we'll talk about him in a second, but he's doing a really cool thing where Power the People, I believe, or Power the Polls-- what they're doing is, they're calling a lot of senior citizens and making sure they're OK.
And they're getting a bunch of volunteers to jump on, and you can just do it from your home. You can just volunteer and call people and just make sure they're fine, right? And they've had various cases where, you know, people have been without water and food, and they've been able to get people to go help them and save them, so that's good, man. So like, stuff like that is being done, which is great to see.
DAVID NUÑO: So in times like this-- by the way, they're just texting me, seeing if he hasn't logged in yet.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah, he's not logged in yet.
DAVID NUÑO: All right, she's following up. We should get him here momentarily.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: OK.
DAVID NUÑO: But this is all happening with the Astros in spring training, recording today. And you got Dusty talking about he couldn't be out there because of-- I guess the antibody test that-- well, he took the vaccine. You have some players that didn't know that they had the antibodies out there-- pitchers and catchers, obviously, are out there getting started.
So spring training is here. Again, a weird spring training for the Astros. Last year, they started spring training with all the uproar over the cheating scandal, and then that got cut short because of the pandemic. And they had to come home. And now we are in the exact same situation-- different, though.
They're back out there in South Florida getting ready at West Palm Beach to start their season while we are here in Houston-- a lot of people kind of going through the pandemic all over again, for a few short-- four, five, six days.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah, and the Rockets also-- you know, they were in Philadelphia last night. So I believe they ended up coming home. I didn't see an official report. But like, again, athletes are going to go through this. We saw elected officials go through this. We saw KP George out of Fort Ben. He shared a video. Did you see where, like, his whole home was destroyed.
Like, it doesn't matter who you are. Yesterday, Mayor Turner, with ABC 13, was doing an interview. Justin was on the other end, actually. And his power goes off, right? Like, there's no-- it doesn't matter who you are. Everyone's going through this, and we'll see how the Astros respond to this. Like, are players even leaving right now? Like, I wouldn't want to leave, right? Like, I want to make sure everything's good at home before I can get out there.
DAVID NUÑO: Raheel, I am not as smart as some of the people who work here at Channel 13, like Ted Oberg, let's say, Tom Abrams-- those guys, to me, are just on a different level of brilliant. I think you and I are smart, but we're-- we're like--
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: We're--
DAVID NUÑO: I don't know, street smart, right? We're like, kind of, like--
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah. We're like-- we can fake it, and we can fake it smart.
DAVID NUÑO: We've got a little George Costanza in us, except--
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah.
DAVID NUÑO: --we don't think that we're the joke. Like, George kind of realizes he's the joke. We don't think we're the joke. We think we're, like, kind of blending in. But there's people like Tom Abrams, Ted Oberg that are smart. I got this question yesterday. I'm trying to find it right now, that I thought-- and I can sum it up if I don't find it real quick.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Mhm.
DAVID NUÑO: It says, basically, has the city done anything to get critical information from local news public officials during this low cell service? Is there a dedicated AM/FM station that will broadcast your station during an emergency? And I know-- I believe it was the hurricane-- I apologize for the hurricane. It's all blending in. When we went to 1560 for the big hurricane, which one was that?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Hurricane Ike.
DAVID NUÑO: Hurricane Ike. We were 1560-- well, simulcasting ABC 13 at that time. I do remember that. But I think that is an excellent point because when power does go out and you have no cell service, how do you get information? Now, if you're lucky enough to have thought ahead and charged your phones long enough-- well, what happens when that runs out? Those are real questions that I think-- we have the technology and the smarts and the wherewithal to kind of be able to fix those situations.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah. I was in that situation yesterday. I didn't have any cell phone service, no Wi-Fi, power was going in and out. I didn't know what was happening outside of text messages. Mattress Mack is here. Let me see if he's ready to jump on with us, and we'll finish that.
JAMES MCINGVALE: Hey.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Let me see. Hey, guys.
JAMES MCINGVALE: I'm sorry. This is James, his son. So we're--
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Hey, James.
JAMES MCINGVALE: --for you right now, and he should be right there with you.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: OK, perfect.
JAMES MCINGVALE: I'm not nearly as handsome or knowledgeable as him, and so let me get him for you, and we'll get things going. OK, guys?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: All right, thanks, James.
DAVID NUÑO: No worries at all, James. I appreciate you jumping on. We've been wanting to chat with you too.
JAMES MCINGVALE: Oh, well, I'm happy to-- I'm telling you, I'm not nearly as knowledgeable or fun, but yeah, it sounds good, guys. Whatever I can do for you, just let me know. And so we're going to grab Mack right now. I'm going to go ahead and set up and turn on the lights, and he'll be right with y'all, OK?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: All right, perfect.
DAVID NUÑO: Great, we'll put you in the lobby for a second while you set up, and we'll bring him on once we see him up there.
JAMES MCINGVALE: Wonderful, perfect. Thank you.
DAVID NUÑO: Thank you very much. Good stuff there from James. So one of the things I love about digital shows-- it's not clean. We just go, right?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: We just go. I mean, what else can you do?
DAVID NUÑO: I feel like Adam Schefter sometimes. You know, like Adam Schefter on ESPN-- breaking news. Deshaun Watson-- he's like, hold on. I'm texting a GM. I think he's probably texting his wife, but just for-- you know, I'm texting Mack's people right now. Hold on, yep. We'll get him on-- I love that. I think--
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah. I mean, that happens. That happens on live television too, right? Like, sometimes you just have to do it. Not everything's going to be perfect. We're humans too, guys. Like, that happens. But going back to your point about technology, I buy the most random stuff, right?
I couldn't find a radio yesterday. I don't have a radio in my house. There's-- there's no way to get information, and I think one of the lessons I'm going to learn-- I've learned from this is, hey, stop depending so much on your phone. Stop depending so much on your television, right?
You've got to be able to get information somehow, some way, especially when text messages weren't going through as well. You've got to be able to adapt to that, and I'm going to go buy a radio. And I'm going to keep it powered up, ready to go with batteries, just in case.
DAVID NUÑO: Were you driving? Because I know I was-- before that it was like a MapQuest or-- you had to actually use a key map. Were you driving at that point?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah, I was-- I mean, I didn't use a key map, truthfully.
DAVID NUÑO: Those are hard.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah, I would always get directions. Yeah. I think-- so I started driving when I was 16 years old, right? Like most people. So that was in-- man, what year was that? 2000-- I'm trying to remember how old I was. 2001, roughly, is when I started driving. So I would always get my directions from my dad, or wherever I was going, and write them down.
And then as MapQuest came online, I remember coming to-- yeah, like job interviews. I would print out MapQuest directions and have the paper with me, and that's how I would do it. And then, of course, Google Maps, and everything came online around 2008. So yeah, I remember those days, man, for sure.
DAVID NUÑO: Yeah. But it kind of goes back to your point. We become so reliant on technology, right?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Mhm.
DAVID NUÑO: And everything-- how you communicate with people. Like, in years past-- my parents-- my dad is 90. My mom's 80. If their power were to go out, I would have to physically drive on the ice to go check on them-- if the phones went out.
Well, I think landlines are kind of needed again, guys. Because I mean, if you have a digital line at home, you couldn't call that either. So that's another thing. So some of the ways-- old school can kind of trump what's going on right now.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah, that's-- that's a great point. You better get a landline.
DAVID NUÑO: I got a lot of points. Give me some credit today.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: You are on fire today with the points. But I don't know if I'm going to get a landline. I don't know if I'm-- I don't know. [LAUGHS] It'll just sit there.
DAVID NUÑO: Yeah, we have a landline, but it's not-- it is a digital landline through our cable company, and I don't believe it worked during the--
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Uh-uh.
DAVID NUÑO: Well, we didn't have a power outage-- but when our Comcast or xfinity went out for a little bit.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah. How have the kids been, by the way? Because there's nothing you can do right now, other than just sit.
DAVID NUÑO: Actually, this has been the best thing for them. They've been going outside and, like-- we have like a bayou not far from our house, which is terrible parenting by our part. They're sliding down the bayou.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: [LAUGHS]
DAVID NUÑO: All the possums and the raccoons-- whatever's out there, right? Nutria-- and they had-- they've had so much fun outside in the snow. And we didn't have that much snow in our area, but they-- like, the entire neighborhood-- I went to go pick up my parents one day, and it was kind of hard to drive. You had to go super slow. Like, the golf course was all frozen, and like all the kids in the neighborhood were sliding down the hill. So I think, if anything, it did force kids to go outside. It was uncomfortable.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah.
DAVID NUÑO: Did you work out?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: I worked out yesterday. Yesterday when I didn't have power, I was just sitting there. And I'm like, OK. I can't do anything, so I texted my neighbor Chris. And I was like, hey, are you bored as well? You want to come lift? And he came to my house, and we just lifted in the garage.
And then after the lift was when we were walking around. And I'm like, man, there's a lot of water pooling here. I'm kind of scared. So we got my other-- like, we are all friends on our street, which has been awesome, right? That's one of the things-- like, during this pandemic, we became friends with our neighbors. That forces you to, like, go meet your neighbors, actually.
So I called up the whole group. I'm like, yo, can everyone come over and help me with this? So everybody ran over, and we're trying to figure out, is it a leak? Is it not a leak? We couldn't call anybody until we finally got through. So yeah, I did lift yesterday. I did. I'm probably going to go run today if it's safe.
DAVID NUÑO: I went for a run yesterday. I ran yesterday, and I believe I ran Monday.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Mhm.
DAVID NUÑO: And it's cold. Yeah, it's-- this is kind of nerdy sports talk or nerdy fitness talk, but they say it's better to run in the cold. But the sweet spot is like 45 degrees. Anything below that, your run does suffer. And yesterday and the other day when I ran, I noticed that-- the first mile was great. Like, I love the cold. But then your body starts having issues with it being so cold, and you aren't able to keep that same kind of pace.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah, absolutely. I'm with you. Like, if it's in the 40s, I'm fine. Because I'll put a sweatshirt on, but the 30s, I can't do, man. I can't do. It's tough because your lungs start freezing. You can just feel that cold, man. It's been wild, man. By the way, I do want to give props to all the reporters out there for Channel 13, bringing us all the information. Looks like Mack is ready here. I'm going to see if he's ready to go. I see him on the screen. Mack, what's up, man?
MATTRESS MACK: What's up? Are we in Canada?
DAVID NUÑO: [LAUGHS] It feels like it.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: [LAUGHS] You doing all right?
MATTRESS MACK: I'm doing great. How y'all doing?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: We're doing OK, man.
DAVID NUÑO: We're doing wonderful, my friend. Hey, Mack, man, I'll tell you what. It's-- it's so nice to talk you. Hey, I've chatted with you before, but never in this kind of setting. I know you do this because it comes from the bottom of your heart, but the way you help the city of Houston-- the way you help everybody, but just the way you help the city of Houston, man-- it brings such a joy to our heart. Where did that come from? Where did this giving heart come from?
MATTRESS MACK: You know, my parents taught me when I was a little bitty child that the essence of living is giving. My father always gave, and he supported the church and the community and the Little League Baseball team. So I learned it from him and my mother, and it was just kind of a natural extension of the way I was brought up.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: You know, you start seeing the impacts of this, by the way, which is great. You see all the kids that come in, and you know, they're warming up. We saw John Granato, by the way, out there interviewing one of the kids. He's the best.
MATTRESS MACK: John was out here cooking food. He's a great chef. I was upset when he left.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: [LAUGHS] We saw him interviewing kids. And do you ever think about the impact from this, right? Like, when you see somebody helping you out, you want to give back. And instills a seed of giving back through the rest of the life for these kids. Do you ever think about that kind of impact on what it means for the community?
MATTRESS MACK: Yeah, I think about that all the time. When I get these customers that come in and say, you talked to my fourth grade class about saying no to drugs, and that was 30 years ago. And he said-- he or she said, that had a profound impact on my life. I never did drugs. Now I'm very successful. I remember what you said about the monkey turning into the gorilla, so I know that if you handle yourself right and you set a good example, some people will follow.
But I know my wonderful grandchild, Sydney, was talking about the values she learned from her parents, who her dad learned it from me. And I learned from my father, so I think we can make a difference by living a life that others would emulate, if it's a life worth living.
DAVID NUÑO: How has the last few days been for you personally, Mack, and opening up your facility and helping others out and some of the connections you've made?
MATTRESS MACK: You know, it's been great. We've met a lot of great people from all walks of life, and what I try to do is find each person and have some type of relationship with them and find God's grace in each and every person I meet out here, and I meet lots of them. So it's been a lot of fun. It's been hectic. It's been very difficult to get food, very difficult to get other supplies, but we find a way.
The toilet quit working. We have no water, as you know, in Houston. So the toilets quit working on Monday, but we found a way to keep the toilet flushing. So just try-- you got to innovate or evaporate, and that's what we've been doing, flying by the seat of our pants the last three days, trying to take care of these folks who have no water, no electricity, no power.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: How that been in terms of, you know, when we had Hurricane Harvey, we all anticipated that the damage was going to be significant. It was going to be a long lasting event, so we all prepared for it. This one, you know, nobody could anticipate this, that ERCOT would fail us in the most tiring times. Like, nobody, right? And now you have to, as you mentioned, you just have to adapt and get going with it. What was that like, getting everything ready, because nobody anticipated this?
MATTRESS MACK: Well, I have a friend of mine named Alan Lamay, who's a oil and gas trader. He follows the weather very, very seriously. He told me last Thursday that it's going to be really bad.
So I'm driving to church down Westheimer on Sunday morning. I was late, driving too fast, and I saw three police cars up front, so I slowed down. And they're putting a sheet over some homeless guy who I think died of-- you know, he froze to death. And I knew then it was going to be serious.
I went to work Sunday. Then Monday, it got really bad. I asked the mayor, could we open up. And he said, no, Monday night the roads are too hazardous. Open Tuesday morning. So we had already been very well prepared. We bought 15,000 gallons of diesel to run our generator here. We brought extra food in, and we were prepared for the worst.
And the worst happened, and we just executed the plan of bringing these people in and trying to calm them down. They're stressed out. They're out of their element. They're out of their home. And what can we do to make their life better?
DAVID NUÑO: Mack, can you help me visualize what goes into an event like this? When you see-- you hear the reports what's happening and then actually executing everything that you guys did?
MATTRESS MACK: You know, we just get some of the key team members together and ask them what we think we're going to need. And the number one thing we knew we were going to need was to get that generator running that can power the store. And the generator doesn't power the warehouse, so we had to get some electricians to come in last week and pay a lot of money to power the warehouse in case we were going to keep selling furniture, which we did.
And then we've got to figure out who's going to do security. We got that lined up. It's very important to have lots of security when you've got 300 strangers sleeping together. And then we had figure out which guys are going to which, what shift, which ladies-- and who's going to work the restaurant, because it's overloaded. So there's lots of logistics that go into it, but you know, we've been down this road before with Hurricane Katrina when we housed a bunch of New Orleanians who fled to Houston. We've been down this road before with Harvey, so this time, it was time to execute the plan. And things got worse and worse, and more and more people came in. And we were ready to go. And I'm proud to say our team members couldn't have executed it better. Now, we had our store in Fort Ben open as a shelter also until the water pipes busted, and we got about 25,000 gallons of water in the store, so that kind of ended that deal.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Oh, no. I'm so sorry to hear, Mack.
MATTRESS MACK: You've got to be prepared for setbacks. You got to roll with the punches.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Absolutely. The main location is still open right now for people that need to come in?
MATTRESS MACK: Both locations are now open. The Fort Ben location had all the water everywhere, and it lost power. It doesn't have a generator. But both locations now open for customers. We've got a lot of customers coming in, and both locations still for people that want a warming spot to get out of the cold and want a hot meal. And we're going to let people sleep here again tonight.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: OK.
DAVID NUÑO: Mack, I'm going to ask you something that I asked Trae tha Truth-- that we're going to run that interview after we talk to you-- about how Houston, when we get hit, we get hit hard, my friend. You know, just the last two years-- but also the resiliency of our people.
MATTRESS MACK: The best part about Houston is when a crisis happens, we forget about our differences. And as a 5 million person city, we come together, and we focus on our commonalities and our similarities. And we focus on helping other people.
And that's the best part about Houston. And the worst of times turn out to be the best of times, whether it's Hurricane Harvey or this particular crisis or the power outage. You know, it's not a matter of a blame game. It's a matter of, what can I do to make it better game, and all of our team members certainly jumped in.
We had people that were in here to get out of the cold-- that they wanted to volunteer as soon as they walked in the door. And they're still volunteering. So see the resiliency of people from Texas, and how tough times never last-- tough Texans do. That's my motto, and it comes true every crisis.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Mack, I know you're busy. You've got to get going. This is a sports show, so let me ask you one sports question. How happy were you when Tom Brady and the Bucs ended up winning that game and not giving up a single touchdown to Mahomes?
MATTRESS MACK: Extremely happy. For my customers, we had a mattress promotion. If you bought a Tempur-Pedic 3,000 plus, you got the mattress for free. A lot of happy customers got a free mattress because of Mr. Tom Brady, and I was happy to bet that 3.6 million, win 3.2, and I can pay off all of these mattresses.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: My man.
DAVID NUÑO: Let me follow up with Houston, though. We talked about sports, but it's been a rough 14 months for Houston sports. JJ is no longer a Texan. You've got Deshaun wanting out, Harden's out. Springer leaves for Toronto-- just what a rough year, man. Just your reaction?
MATTRESS MACK: It's a tough year, but you know, sports changes. And the Astros start up in a month. I'm very close to Alex Bregman. He's very excited about the prospects of the team, and things could change quickly. So all is not lost.
We'll certainly miss JJ and Deshaun if he goes-- and James Harden and the other guys. But you know, life goes on, and you pick up the pieces and look forward with vision to the future. So good things are always going to happen in Houston sport teams. One thing about it-- it's always exciting.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Absolutely. Mack, people are calling for you to run for office-- governor, maybe Senator now. What are you going to do? You gonna run?
MATTRESS MACK: I'm running for furniture man, seven days a week.
DAVID NUÑO: There we go.
MATTRESS MACK: All I want to do is sell you a couch. And by the way, we're having a giant power outage floor model super sale. So all this furniture people sat down and slept on-- we're selling at big discounts. Come out and get it today.
DAVID NUÑO: There he is, Mattress Mack. Thank you so much for making time for us, sir. We appreciate your time.
MATTRESS MACK: David, Raheel, thanks for having me on the show. Y'all are great. Any time, call me.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Thanks, Mack.
DAVID NUÑO: Thank you so much.
MATTRESS MACK: And tell Granato he's a great cook.
DAVID NUÑO: Yes he is.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: I'll tell him. [LAUGHS] Thanks, Mack.
DAVID NUÑO: There he is, Mattress Mack.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: He's the best.
DAVID NUÑO: So yeah. I've always wanted to talk to Mack in this kind of setting. Like, I know got him on your radio show. I've only talked to him in passing at events. I've never actually had an extended interview. It's great to talk to Mack.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: True story-- Mack has called me Raheem for the last 12 years.
DAVID NUÑO: I know that. I know that.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Love him. [LAUGHS] I love him so much. You know, I was supposed to go-- because we used to do a broadcast with Mack at one of the local-- I forgot which one. No, it was the original one because the new one hadn't been built yet. But every year, we did the Christmas broadcast with him where he'd be giving away tons of bikes to kids in the community.
And one year, I was supposed to get up on a fire ladder and advertise, like, hey, we're out here doing a broadcast. But luckily, the winds were so strong that I couldn't get up into the cherry bucket or cherry basket. So shout out to the wind. [LAUGHS]
DAVID NUÑO: Shout out to the wind. Hey, I've got shows to get ready for and whatnot, and we got a really good interview. So those who are watching right now who stayed for Mack and are about to Trae tha Truth-- a couple of quick hits.
He comes hard at Ted Cruz, and he also drops a James Harden nugget that I think some fans of James are going to be happy to hear. And I think even fans that were happy that he left are going to be happy to hear what he had to say about James Harden. So let's go to our interview there with Trae tha Truth from earlier today.
All right, Trae, man, I know you're super busy, always working around the city, trying to make lives better. Just what are you currently working on? Because I know yesterday you were helping feed people, checking on people. That's what you do.
TRAE THA TRUTH: Yeah, you know, for the most part this week we've been doing-- whether it may be any minor assistance-- food. Generators have been scarce, you know. We haven't really been able to find them. The few we did have, we ended up getting out ASAP. It's so crazy. We ended up getting them out ASAP, and I was without power. So I froze for the last few days. My power finally came on last night.
Right now, I'm headed to meet up with some of the other relief gang members. We're going to give out firewood, and then we got charcoal. I'm going to buy a whole bunch of-- at least about 500 or 600 meals for families. And we just-- we running around. We've been struggling trying to get water. That's the most scarce thing right now. People the water.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah, I was going to ask you-- what is it that the communities need right now, and how can we give back and help out with this?
TRAE THA TRUTH: Right now-- I just made a post, actually, telling companies, you know, man, even if they have access to a truck that's parked, anything that got water. I don't need nothing for free. I'll pay for it, but I need to get it, to try and get it to some of these people that can't help themselves right now.
DAVID NUÑO: Trae, I feel like we talk to you often as a station and as a community because there's always something going on. Can you believe, here we are, 2021-- the start of it, and Houston again in this kind of just terrible spot?
TRAE THA TRUTH: Not even just that, man. You know, I really just sat back and thought about-- every disaster we have is tremendous. I don't-- you know, other people have storms and stuff-- places. But in Texas, if you go back to Harvey and anything through it, ours is to the extreme. I'm really just-- I just don't understand it.
This-- this right here, this don't even make sense, as far as with ERCOT. Like, this is crazy, man. You know, it's kind of hard to pinpoint exactly who's responsible, but I feel everybody who's part of them is responsible for some of these people dying. You know, there's people dying-- not know better, sleeping in they cars and carbon monoxide.
It's-- they say it might have been over three to five people that have been in the hospital by carbon monoxide. It's like, these people are not thinking about them. You know, I'm just curious to know-- do the ERCOT workers have power? Do you know what I'm saying?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Trae, when you're out there and you're talking to the community and giving back-- and you've given back so much. Even during times where we don't need the help, you're out there in the community. What do you think when you see elected officials like Senator Ted Cruz leaving his state when they need him the most?
TRAE THA TRUTH: No respect for him, man, because, you know, he-- it's different, man. You can't make everybody stay. I get it. But certain people, especially officials that have something to do with Texas, that should be your responsibility because that's what you signed up for.
See, I can't get mad at an athlete or another entertainer if they want to get up and leave. That's their choice. But their job isn't to get out and help the people. But Cruz-- you had people vote for you and numerous other things to act like you for Texas, but you go on a trip to Cancun when people out here dying.
So I don't-- I don't care for him. He ain't never got my vote, and he never will. Actually, man, if Abbott don't get it together, man, I'm going to do a campaign through Texas, and I'm going to find the right person I think need to be in place. And I'm endorsing them, and I'm going to get the people to vote for him.
DAVID NUÑO: Do you have anybody in mind?
TRAE THA TRUTH: --for the people. I honestly don't. I honestly don't. Of course, I will have to analyze and sit and think because, you know, sometimes you could vote for people and not really know if their motive is right, so you know, that kind of take time.
DAVID NUÑO: Trae, where did this philanthropic heart of yours come from? I mean, since we've known you, you've always given back. Where did it come from?
TRAE THA TRUTH: I think this is my heart tune, you know, serving people. Like, titles-- I don't really care for the title. Like, it's just what I do. I've always been like this. It's just always there in my heart. And at the end of the day, man, you know, people dead. You know, that's what gives me my energy, know that I done helped somebody to make it a little longer as opposed to giving up.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Trae, would you ever consider running for any kind of office?
TRAE THA TRUTH: Nope.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: You serve, man.
TRAE THA TRUTH: I don't follow rules. I don't care about politics-- none of that. I mean, you know, people always call-- people call me the mayor. They call me the governor. I don't want that. I'm just Trae. I like it this way, you know what I'm saying? I like it better this way.
DAVID NUÑO: What kind of response do you get from the people? And let's take it from somebody who may not know who you are. Let's say somebody just-- they aren't into the hip hop scene. They haven't heard of you. Then you come and show up and do what you do. What kind of response are you getting?
TRAE THA TRUTH: I don't know. I lot of people said that the key word that people use the most for me is they inspired and motivated. But shit, I don't really-- I don't try and sell myself to the people. That's what I say. I just do me, man. You know. You can fall in line with it and support it, or you can choose not to. And it's still gonna get done regardless, so-- kind of don't know what else to say past that. I mean, but definitely-- a lot of people go to my Instagram just to learn about what's going on because they know I'm in the streets all the time.
DAVID NUÑO: Trae, we're-- we're a sports show, right? So we talk a lot about sports. Right now we're going through a very tough time in the city, but if you look at the last 12, 14 months, this city, sports wise, we've lost some players, man? Just your thoughts on what has happened here-- and now Deshaun wanting to leave and JJ being cut-- everything. Harden gone.
TRAE THA TRUTH: Yeah, a matter of fact, now that you brought up Harden, shout out to him. He actually called me this morning, actually, to try and even help with everything that's going on. So I'm pretty sure-- make sure y'all stay tuned on behalf of Harden and myself-- and my partner Rosey-- Relief Gang. You know, we'll be doing a lot of stuff for a lot of families, too. So shout out to him.
You know, I can't really say if I have a certain opinion on him leaving. Of course, I'm always-- I'm Houston everything, so I'm always going to be Team Houston, but you know, sometimes it may not be a fit. Sometimes coaches and players don't get along. Sometimes players and players don't get along. Sometimes people may feel they may want to be elsewhere. And it's like, who will be the trafficker on lock in the corner, you know?
So I'm just wanting people-- I respect everybody's decision, you know, because everybody grown, so they have to do what they feel is best for them, you know what I'm saying? And hopefully, as they know what's best for them, we'll find somebody that may want to come here that feel this is best for them, man. We can rebuild and do what we need to do.
DAVID NUÑO: Well, Trae, we appreciate you making some time for us, man. We're a big fan of what you're doing for the community, big fan of what you mean for Houston. And you'll always have a spot here on No Layups, and we'll support you any way we can, my friend.
TRAE THA TRUTH: All right, man. I appreciate you. If y'all need it-- if we needed at any time, just holler at Relief Gang. We got you.
DAVID NUÑO: That was awkward again, Raheel-- very, very awkward. Very awkward ending.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: I forget to add you back in. That's my fault. That's on me.
DAVID NUÑO: And you're on the left again. I just-- I can't visually get down with that. By the way, you think I'm might get in trouble for not shaving. I don't want to use the water.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: No. So yeah, I was going to ask you about this. This is the second time, I think, we've been under a boil-- is it a boil notice, or a boil-- yeah, is it a boil notice? Is that what it's
DAVID NUÑO: Yeah, it's a boil notice.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah, so am I not allowed to use it to wash my hands, either? I'm not familiar with the boil notice stuff.
DAVID NUÑO: I don't think you're supposed to. I mean, if you recognize what the water is mixed with, I don't think you'd want to. You're supposed to use water that's been boiled. Let it go to room temperature. Don't boil your hands off. And then clean with that. Or you can use your sanitizer. That's Dr. Nuño's recommendation.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: What about a shower?
DAVID NUÑO: I mean, bro, like rinse and get out. And like, baby towel and like sanitizer in areas you can sanitize. Like, you know, you just-- yeah, no.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: No.
DAVID NUÑO: I'm not recommending it.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: OK, OK. I'll research it a little bit more and figure out what you can do.
DAVID NUÑO: Don't drink the water.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: No, no, no. We're not drinking the water.
DAVID NUÑO: And I think it kind of depends if you feel like your water-- like, if there's an odor to the water, probably not the best time to take a shower. I mean, I would say use some rubbing alcohol-- zoom, zoom. You know, like old school. And that's how you shower.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: OK, we'll make it work. We'll make it work. There's worse things happening right now than me worrying about a shower, so I'll just ask that off air next time. [LAUGHS]
DAVID NUÑO: Yeah, I mean, look, you want to smell good, all right? That's the truth. But you know? Why not go in the pool?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: I don't have a pool. [LAUGHS] Man, interesting stuff, by the way, from Mattress Mackie. As he mentioned, his Fort Ben store-- the pipes burst. And he had damage there. But he's open again. Like, he already fixed it. He's ready to go.
And then from Trae tha Truth-- James Harden got in touch with him. You're going to-- I think you're about to tweet that out as well, and you'll have it on the news tonight. So interesting stuff from there. He did not hold back on Senator Ted Cruz, who was just trying to be a good dad and help out his daughters get to Mexico.
DAVID NUÑO: Yeah, yeah. Look, there are always two sides to a story. It's just-- some people are not happy with the way that whole thing played out. Let me do this, Raheel. Before we call it a day, we are a sports show. And the sports director, Greg Bailey, walked into the building. He has never been on No Layups.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Never.
DAVID NUÑO: I haven't gone through his agents. I haven't gone through his representatives. But if I can get him to maybe give us 30 seconds of what Lance McCullers said on the spring training Zoom that happened just a few minutes ago-- look at this. Look at this.
GREG BAILEY: What's up, Raheel?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Greg, what's up, man? How are you doing?
GREG BAILEY: I'm good, buddy.
DAVID NUÑO: You're doing all right?
GREG BAILEY: You guys want a little run down of McCullers right here?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah, tell us what happened.
GREG BAILEY: All right, first of all, he fully expects that they're going to continue to win the World Series. That's the only expectation they have coming into camp-- huge off season for him because he was actually healthy for the first time. They'll be ready. He said he thinks to take on 180 innings, if that's what it's going to take from him, which is huge news for the Astros.
And then with regards to Houston, he's really been hit hard by watching what's happening at the city. They've been in Florida. His family's fine, but they've obviously been watching everything. And he actually went so far as to-- when someone texted him and told them they got power back at his house, he immediately texted friends, just so they could go to his house and have a warm place to be.
So the Astros players see it. They're talking about it and just kind of watching from Florida. Because they've all been in quarantine in Florida so they can get started with spring training. It's-- it's been hard for him.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah. Thanks, Frank.
DAVID NUÑO: --on your debut on No Layups.
GREG BAILEY: There you go.
DAVID NUÑO: There he is.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: He's a professional. Look at that. I love it.
DAVID NUÑO: I didn't even warn him. He just gave us a full report. Like, look at that. He's just great. All right guys, so match smack-- what's the rule? I can take it down now?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah, I think you can take it down.
DAVID NUÑO: It's 8 feet?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: 8 feet, yeah. I think you're OK.
DAVID NUÑO: I don't know. I don't want to get in trouble. I'll just whisper. So we're done. Good show. Mattress Mack was great. Trae tha Truth was awesome. And oh, for those who have stayed the entire time, the interview that we've been teasing for three weeks-- we actually ended up doing it. We're going to run it, I think, on Sunday-- Nicky Jam. And things you want to say about what came through in that interview?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: He-- Nicky Jam was one of the coolest interviews we've done. And again, you know a lot more about Nicky Jam than I do. Like, I-- you know, I've watched a few episodes of the show that he has. I know some of his songs. But to me, he was one of the coolest people that we've interviewed. You wouldn't have guessed that he's a worldwide superstar.
DAVID NUÑO: Yeah, he was awesome-- very conversational interview. One thing you won't see that I know you were not surprised by, but because of the winter storm, the kids were able to say hello to him before the interview started, which I thought was kind of-- and he was very cool, asking them about what they do, sports wise. So that was cool. They chatted with him for a few minutes. So we'll probably run that on Sunday. , Hopefully everybody will have somewhat back to normal life by that point. But ABC 13 will be all over. Or weather team has been great-- traffic, investigative reporters, anchors, producers behind the scenes, people all reporting and chipping in. It has been-- it is always inspiring to work with people who make you step up your game. And when I see Ted Obergs of the world-- and Samicas, Tom Cook, that we've had on the show, Kevin Ross, Travis-- all the gang, right?
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Yeah.
DAVID NUÑO: It is always inspiring to see what they do and make us better at what we do.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Everyone stay safe, and we'll all get through it, man. Just hang tight, and every day, it'll get better.
DAVID NUÑO: Good ending, man. That was almost like Tom Abram's ending of Newscast, you know. Be kind--
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Be kind to one-- yep. [LAUGHS]
DAVID NUÑO: One another.
RAHEEL RAMZANALI: Later.
DAVID NUÑO: All right, Raheel.