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PHOENIX – New videos tie U.S. Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz., to the nationwide "Stop the Steal" movement that led to the siege of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.
But Biggs is pointing at antifa and Black Lives Matter, saying the far-left militant group and the social justice group are at least partially to blame.
Yes, angry Trump supporters were part of the mob that broke down barriers and smashed their way into the inner sanctums of the House and Senate, Biggs said in a radio interview Monday.
The FBI and the U.S. Department of Justice say there is no evidence to suggest the loosely tied groups of "anti-fascist" activists known as antifa were involved in the Capitol invasion.
"There's no doubt in my mind that there were just pissed-off Trump people there that had come in. And then there were other people that were definitely not Trump people," Biggs said on Tucson's 1030 KVOI AM. "You probably had some insurgents, you know, some antifa or BLM type folks. ... We don't know."
On Wednesday, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy pushed back on members claiming antifa was to blame, saying: "Some say the riots were caused by antifa. There is absolutely no evidence of that, and conservatives should be the first to say so."
Biggs denied any role in cheerleading for the "Stop the Steal" movement and said allegations he helped organize the Capitol protest were "whoppers."
"It just didn't happen," he said while making the rounds on Arizona's conservative talk radio programs. "I knew there was going to be ... a couple of rallies there that day, but I did not participate and didn't organize and did not attend."
Biggs' claims followed a report by The Arizona Republic that found he was involved in a Dec. 19 "Stop the Steal" rally in Phoenix, where supporters pushed the conspiracy theory that President Donald Trump won the 2020 election over Joe Biden.
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Ali Alexander, who led rallies nationwide to try to overturn the results of the presidential election, called Biggs a hero of the movement during the rally at the Arizona Capitol and led a chant in his name.
In a video that went viral last week, Alexander said Biggs, Arizona Rep. Paul Gosar and Alabama Rep. Mo Brooks helped him plan and "schemed up" the U.S. Capitol rally.
The rally turned into a bloody melee that left five people dead, including a Trump supporter who was shot as she climbed through a barricaded doorway and a Capitol Police officer who was bashed in the head with a fire extinguisher.
Federal lawmakers of both parties are now calling for some sort of sanction – from censure to an ethics probe – for any members involved in inciting what they view as an insurrection.
New videos raise questions
As Biggs raised the specter of antifa and Black Lives Matter provocateurs without any evidence, The Republic found videos that raise additional questions about his ties to Alexander and involvement in "Stop the Steal."
Alexander, 35, is a convicted felon turned conservative operative. The Daily Beast reported Monday that he was in hiding after Twitter and Facebook deactivated his personal and "Stop the Steal" accounts. He could not be reached for comment on Tuesday.
In a Dec. 21 video, Alexander gave an update on the planned Jan. 6 rally and talked about his alliance with lawmakers. The video has been shared widely on Twitter.
"We are working closely with Congressman Mo Brooks, closely with Congressman Andy Biggs and Congressman, obviously, Paul Gosar, my great friend," Alexander says. "We're working with members of Congress while other people are trying to showboat."
Alexander claims Democrats are going to use antifa and Black Lives Matter against Republicans, whom he said had a "moral imperative" to maintain control of the White House.
"I think the Democrats cheated," Alexander said in the video. "We have a moral obligation since we are the party of restraint and of prudence and peace to hold power."
In another video, Biggs is interviewed back to back with Alexander by far-right talk show host Sean Lin about the country's "path forward" in the run-up to the Jan. 6 congressional certification of presidential election results.
In his Dec. 14 show, "BraveHearts," Lin said he interviewed Alexander and Biggs after a Dec. 13 rally in Washington, D.C.
Alexander and Biggs were interviewed separately. However, the video shows the interviews occurred at the same location and at the same time of day.
Lin cut from the taped interview to his studio, where he thanks Biggs.
"He flew over to Washington, D.C., to support this rally, so kudos to his efforts," Lin said.
Biggs' spokesman Daniel Stefanski said Tuesday that he couldn't explain why Biggs and Alexander were interviewed at the same time by Lin. He said that Biggs was invited to speak at a rally hosted by Moms of America and that his speech was entirely Christmas focused.
"He arrived at the event on the mall, gave a couple of one-on-one interviews and was ushered to the stage soon after," Stefanski said. "I can't speak for why Ali was there and gave an interview."
The Moms for America website features pictures from the event that include separate shots of Biggs and Alexander at the event.
A video of the event shows Alexander taking the stage about 25 minutes after Biggs and promising to "stop the steal of Christmas." The crowd responds with chants of "Stop the steal."
Alexander described Moms of America as a friend and said its state coordinators helped "Stop the Steal."
Stefanski said Biggs has never met nor associated with Alexander. He denied Biggs was involved in the planning of the Jan. 6 "Stop the Steal" rally. Biggs' primary concern is upholding election integrity, and that his message has been consistent, Stefanski said.
Biggs provided phone message at Phoenix rally
Alexander introduced Biggs at the Dec. 19 rally at the Arizona Capitol and played a phone video message he said Biggs recorded for the event. Alexander told the crowd they would “plop our asses on the U.S. Capitol” on Jan. 6 with or without a permit.
Some links to the video that were active Monday have been disabled. It is available on YouTube.
Stefanski said Biggs recorded the message at the request of Gosar's aides and did not interact with Alexander.
With hundreds cheering, Alexander called Biggs a “hero” and said Biggs was running ahead to whip up votes in Washington.
Alexander held his phone up to the microphone, amplifying Biggs’ voice, which can be heard clearly over the crowd noise.
"We’re fighting for the freedoms that made this country great," Biggs said, making comments that were almost verbatim to what he said in the interview with Lin. "We’re fighting for our history, and we are also fighting for our future."
Biggs called Trump the best president in his lifetime.
"He has accomplished more in a short period of time with every wind blowing in his face; whether it be the media fighting him at every turn, whether it be the Democrats and leftists fighting him at every turn, or even people within our own party," Biggs said.
He told the crowd he was sorry he could not be with them but promised he would be fighting in Congress on Jan. 6.
"When it comes to January 6, I am going to be right down there in the well of the House with my friend from Alabama, Mo Brooks, and dozens of others who will join me as we look at some of the elections around this country and we say, ‘How do you explain that?’" Biggs said.
“We are going to stand up for this president and for the voters of America," he said. "And that’s legal. Not only is it legal, that’s constitutional. Not only is it constitutional, it’s a moral thing to do."
Gosar the more vocal supporter of 'Stop the Steal'
Biggs' role in "Stop the Steal" is nowhere near as defined or as prolific as Gosar's, who has tweeted dozens of times in support of the movement.
Gosar was the headliner at the Dec.19 rally. He followed other Arizona Republicans, such as state Rep. Mark Finchem, Arizona GOP Chair Kelli Ward, state Sen. Sonny Borrelli and former Arizona House Rep. Anthony Kern.
"In a Dec. 7 "Open Letter to Arizona," Gosar said he "helped organize the very first 'Stop the Steal' rally in Arizona."
Gosar's personal Twitter account points to Alexander's account at least 23 times since a Nov. 30 meeting in Phoenix that included Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani outlining unproven claims of fraud in Arizona's election results.
Gosar tweeted various versions of "Stop the Steal" at least 25 times in the same span.
He also has suggested antifa was to blame for the Jan. 6 riot. As rioters dressed in MAGA hats and Trump T-shirts, carrying Trump placards and flags, stormed the U.S. Capitol, Gosar took to Twitter:
"This has all the hallmarks of Antifa provocation," he wrote.
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This article originally appeared on Arizona Republic: Arizona's Andy Biggs tied to 'Stop the Steal' movement in new videos