Hot off her historic "RuPaul’s Drag Race: All Stars" win, Monét X Change brings her very own talk show to BUILD Series. Monét was joined by two faboulous guests: actress-singer Keke Palmer and drag queen Blair St. Clair
MONET X CHANGE: Hey y'all. It's your girl, Monét. And welcome back to "The X Change Rate," a corner of the internet where day-drinking is not just a fun weekend activity, it's a way of life. And today's episode, category is wo-ma-na because we have the ever so fierce yet never pressed, Keke Palmer in the house. And the stunning, stunning, stunning Ms. Blair St. Clair is stopping by with all that all-stars tea true tea hunty!
It's a triple T. T, T, T. I thought that was cute. Oh god, my tits are out. But first, let's get up in the gig. Hit it!
Music [INAUDIBLE]. Music [INAUDIBLE] cool.
Can I tell y'all one thing that I hope to abolish this fall is fucking Zoom meetings. Zoom meetings are the bane of my existence. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. It's so annoying. It's like people forget before Zoom meetings, we would do conference call. Conference calls were completely OK, but now just to, like, discuss mundane things that literally are not that important, there's a Zoom link. You have to have headphones. It's just too much.
Can we please go back to the times of conference calls? Please? I would even tolerate a Skype now. There's something about just-- I'm just triggered by the word "Zoom" now. I'm just so, so, so mad about it. Everything is a Zoom meeting. It's also, like, just as bad as FaceTime to me. Like, you know when you have your friends, or sometimes family members, or sometimes associates that like to FaceTime you without any preemptive call?
You just laying in your bed watching "Keeping Up With the Kardashians." And all of a sudden, you get a-- how does the phone sound with FaceTime? (SINGING) Doon, doon.
- (SINGING) Doon, doon.
MONET X CHANGE: No, (SINGING) doon, doo. Doon, doon, doon, doo, doo. No, that's Skype. Whatever it is. Facetiming someone without--
- It's a brrr.
MONET X CHANGE: Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's that. FaceTiming someone without notice is rude, it's annoying, and you should not do that. If you're that girl, stop it. All of your friends hate it. All right? I'm here to speak some truth to you. It's like someone just showing up at your apartment without any notice. They just like come-- could you imagine someone just showed up at your house, your home, your apartment, your cardboard box, just knocking up and just being like, hey girl? Like, that's rude, rude, rude, rude.
And speaking of showing up unannounced, hey, Durrell. You know who you are, Durrell. Durrell is the gentleman that lives in my neighborhood that comes by for, like, a pit stop. You know what I'm saying? Do y'all know what a pit stop is? A pit stop is, like, on your way-- just like at the races at the track, you do a pit stop when you on your way home to the finish line, which you just do a little pit stop because you take care of some maintenance.
So that's what I describe my interaction with Durrell is. And Durrell, I think you watch the show. So hey.
Also, I have a really good sense of "The View." Obviously, we all know this. But Joy Behar is an eternal mood, just watching her face. Can we please just-- I know we don't normally do this here. Can we please show this pic of Joy Behar? Look at Joy. Joy is just always annoyed, unbothered, just giving you very much--
I remember when they did the Father's Day episode, like everyone going around the table like, yeah, for Father's Day, I did this. For Father's Day, I did-- Whoopi's like, Joy, what did you do? (JOY VOICE) For Father's Day, my daughter and my son-in-law came with my grandson, and, you know, it was a nice Father's Day. But you know who doesn't like Father's Day? Trump. Trump doesn't deserve Father's Day. Now that-- [LAUGHS] She's just always going off.
I just love, love, love Joy because she's so, so, so, so good. A forever mood. And she's my queen, honestly. [LAUGHS]
Another forever mood that I don't ever want to feel is getting shot by one of your friends, which is our first story. Bitch, this Tory Lanez, Megan Thee Stallion shooting thing, it is honestly-- It is blowing my mind. We have to jump right in because it's so, so, so, crazy. First of all, all quarantine long, Tory Lanez-- If you guys know Tory Lanez, he's that-- I think he's a rapper.
Or he might be one of those, like, R&B-- R&B-- oh, titties. He might be one of those hip hop personalities that just, like, becomes popular. You know what I mean? For no reason. [BURPS] I think he's that. But he is-- He gets on my nerves. First of all, on Instagram and stuff, he has a very rude and just downright mean disposition. He was doing this thing where he would invite girls onto his live during quarantine, and they'll come in the chat, and he'd let them into the live.
And then he would do shit like, boo, block, you're ugly. And just, like, cancel them off the live. So that already had, like, a very, very sour taste with Tory Lanez. You're fucking wack. So anyway, him and Megan Thee Stallion, they'd been, like, quarantining a lot together, hanging out together in LA, or in Texas, wherever these rich rapper hip hop folk live. And there have been rumors speculating that they were together, then Megan kind of said that they weren't.
So it was, like, this weird limbo of what their relationship status is. I will say that is a very peculiar couple to me. First of all, Tory Lanez is about 5'2, 5'3. And Megan The Stallion-- Bitch, they don't call her Thee Stallion for nothing. She is 5'10. Megan Thee Stallion and I are literally 3/4 of an inch apart in height. And y'all, if you ever met me at a meet-and-greet, I'm a big lady. So they're going to be a very morty couple.
It's very interesting. But whatever, whatever is your drug of choice, live your life. OK. So Saturday, July 11th, Tory and Megan are at Kylie Jenner's house for a pool party situation. Like, everybody's in the pool, people drinking, just having a good time. Young people, 2020, living your life. Whatever, whatever, whatever. Apparently, I got to adjust my titties because I'm getting so excited. Well, not excited, but you know what I mean.
Apparently, Tory and Megan get into a fight, and then he pulls out his fucking gun and shoots Megan Thee Stallion in the foot. Like, Tory Lanez pulled out a gun and shot her. Like isn't that crazy town? Like what in the-- That is so-- That is so, so, so nuts. So then there are all these, like, accounts of what people hypothesized happened. Apparently, like, Tory was leaving in the car and people think that he pulled his gun out. And while she was going to her car, he shot her.
There are all these speculations about what happened. No one knows exactly, like, a scene-by-scene scenario. Which by the way, sidebar, you know, like, all the Kardashians and Jenners, they travel with, like, millions of security guards now. Ever since Kim was robbed in Paris, all of them have, like, at least three security guards with them at all time. But again, they're at Kylie's house so the security is probably not watching them as close as possible.
But imagine being Kris Jenner and getting the call at 2 AM, someone was shot at your daughter's house. Which Kim was like, get the cameras! Get the cameras! We gonna catch the moment because y'all know she's shady. Because Kanye-- girl, that is a whole thing. Harriet Tubman did actually for free slaves. Anyways, sidebar, go back to the point of the story. [LAUGHS] So yeah, that's what happened. Then Tory has been arrested, but he was only held on $35,000 for bail.
So of course, the bail was paid. He was out, like, four days later. And then there was this video of Megan Thee Stallion getting-- Someone got it on video of her being pulled over by the cops. And bitch, she gets out of the black SUV. And bitch, she is limping. You see the blood like pouring from-- Like, it's all over the sidewalk. So it's not, like, speculation. This actually happened. She was pouring blood from her goddamn foot on the pavement getting pulled over by the cops.
She was not arrested, they actually took her to the hospital. So that was so that. But people are now thinking that Tory-- Well, people are saying that Tory was defending Megan. From who at Kylie Jenner's house? Megan had to say this about it. "The narrative that is being reported about Sunday morning events are inaccurate, and I'd like to set the record straight. On Sunday morning, I suffered gunshot wounds as a result of a crime that was committed against me done with the intention to physically harm me."
So this is a eyewitness-- Not eyewitness. This was, like, a-- I wanna say first person. This is the person who was actually involved saying that this person did this to hurt me, and Tory was trying to hurt Megan. "I was never arrested. The police officers drove me to the hospital where I underwent surgery to remove the bullets." Bitch, not bullet, bullets. Gag. "I'm incredibly grateful to be alive and that I am expected to make a full recovery. But it was important to me to clarify the details about this traumatic night.
I'm currently focused on my recovery so I can return back to my life and back to making music as soon as possible." Bitch this is so, so, so nutty. I cannot believe Tory Lanez shot Megan Thee Stallion. Like, what kind of hood shit is popping off in these streets? And her producer friend wanted to double down and say, yeah, Tory is not-- He's not the hero here. He did some shady shit and he shot Megan.
So I'm going to keep on studying the story because I am very intrigued, this is very crazy. Megan is what? Like in her early 20s, 22, 23? Like bitch, can you imagine being shot by one of your boo's? Girl.
Next story. With this next story, I have to admit, I've been really ignorant about "The Help." You know, like you, I watched "The Help." I'm like, oh, this is such a good movie. I love Emily Blunt-- no, not Emily Blunt. What's that girl name? It's not Emily Blunt. How Emily Blunt look, they one of those actresses that you mix up.
Like for the Black folk, Robin Givens and the lady from "Waiting to Exhale," they are, to me, I've never seen-- they look like the same person. Not Emily Blunt, Patti gonna tell me in a second. The other redhead actress lady, they-- I was like, oh, this is a great movie. This is a great film.
But Viola Davis, did y'all know this? She's gone on record since 2018 saying that she regrets doing "The Help."
- Amy Adams?
MONET X CHANGE: Not Amy Adams.
MONET X CHANGE: Emma Stone, Emma Stone, Emma Stone. I love, love, love Emma Stone. She's so, so good. But her and Amy Adams, and Emily Blunt, bitch, they are the same person to me. If all three of them were in this room, I would be so confused. Anyway, so Viola Davis, she's got on since 2018 saying that she's not part of the movie and she regrets doing the role. And we know with talks of Black Lives Matter, we're just seeing more black actors and actresses--
Sorry, the term actresses is antiquated. They're all actors. Black actors coming forth and, like, being really vocal about things they've done in the past that they regret. And she's saying this, she's saying-- and did y'all know that Viola Davis is an almost EGOT? She has the Emmy. She has the Tony. She has the Oscar. All she's missing is the Grammy. And bitch, I think Kathy Griffin has a Grammy for a comedy album. So it's not like out of the realm of possibility that Viola can get a Grammy and she can be an EGOT.
I mean, I'm here for it. So if you don't know, "The Help" was a movie based on a book that was written in 2009 about Jackson, Mississippi, and black women working in the households of white women. And obviously, all the systemic and racial injustices that happen in that time in the 60s, black people working for white people. You don't need to watch a movie to be creative in your mind about what that looks like.
And it's been hailed as a really great movie, but Violet says this. In an interview, she said, "Have I ever done roles that I've regretted? I have. 'The Help' is on that list." This was "The New York Times." "I just felt that it wasn't the voices of the maids that were heard. I know Aibileen. I know Minny. They're my grandma. They're my mom. And I know that if you do a movie where the whole premise is, I want to know what it feels like to work for white people and to bring up children in 1963, I want to hear how you really feel about it. I never heard that in the course of this movie."
So the woman who wrote it, her name is-- What's her name?
- Kathryn Stockett.
MONET X CHANGE: Kathryn Stockett. Kathryn Stockett wrote the movie, who was a white woman. And it was directed by her childhood friend, Tate Taylor, who was a white gentleman about the maid, Aibileen. And apparently, Aibileen is a real woman. Aibileen is a housekeeper who once worked for Kathryn's brother. And the real Aibileen came on and she, like, criticized it. She said the author was stealing her life story without her knowledge and based the character, Aibileen, on her likeness.
So you had the audacity to get the movie made about Aibileen, spelling the name differently. But bitch, we know who you talking about, and then not even consulting the woman. And I doubt she got any royalties. I doubt she got any money from this project when this movie was made about her life. Like, how fucking shady is that, Kathryn Stockett?
So Viola Davis was not proud of this. And this, again, is coming up to the surface again because she just did a photoshoot with "Vanity Fair--" Well, she did the cover of "Vanity Fair," and this is the first time the cover was shot by an African-American woman, 2020. Gag.
And yeah, she doubled down. She was like, "I still regret taking that role and I always will." So not her proudest moment, but Miss Thing, we've all had proud moments. Me and Durrell, I had a moment a few weeks ago when I-- I was not proud of. [LAUGHS] Durrell, are you watching this?
Patti, where the drink at? I need a drink. I need a drink. I feel verklempt. What if-- yeah, what if Durrell is really watching this?
And yeah, it's no surprise. Clearly, "The Help" is a movie that caters to the white savior narrative and it's not a healthy depiction for Black folk because Black folk are not-- I'm sure it those were all white folk behind the camera. You had a white director, white producers, a white screen-- you know? There was so-- I don't know that for a fact, but I'm pretty sure that's probably what happened. So I can see why Viola Davis feels bad about it, and she wants to-- and it's a thing in her life that she regretted.
Though the movie did do very well commercially, she's entitled to feel that way. And I would love to talk to her about that. She's such a fierce woman.
That video of her that's been going around the Instagram and the Twitters lately of her talking about people calling her the Black Meryl Streep, and people not realizing how insulting that is-- so look at Viola Davis who went to Juilliard, who has the Emmy, the Oscar, the Tony, and people are like, oh my god, you're really good. You're like a Black Meryl Streep. That is so rude. And She was saying how people did that to her all the time, to this day.
So she's right to feel that way. And Viola, you're fierce to me, mama. I love you. And I would love to chat with you sometime. Woo.
And this just in on the earpiece. Apparently Tate Taylor, the director, he's gay. And him and his partner had their wedding, or they live on a renovated plantation. Bitch! Uh-uh. Call the police. Call the cops.
Girl, this sounds like a plot of some Hallmark movie bullshit, which brings us to our next story because Hallmark is another group of folk under fire. So they just released-- Well, first of all, by a show of hands, who watches the Hallmark Channel?
Me either. I'm more of a Lifetime girl. There's something so thrilling about-- Because Lifetime is really seedy and gross. You'll have, like, the babysitter who's fucking the husband, but he ends up being the sister's cousin. And then she gets pregnant with a baby, but then the wife ends up being the bad guy because the wife kills her, and she cuts the baby out of her stomach. And it's just like-- Lifetime is just so fucking good. I live. I'm a Lifetime bitch.
But they just announced their holiday fall lineup, and there are 40 holiday movies coming out to the Hallmark Channel this fall, which Coronavirus, COVID. Like, how are we filming these movies? But whatever, LA County's on their own shit. That's why they quarantined again. But they have 40 movies coming out, and guess how many of them are queer stories? Yeah, you're correct. Zero. Out of 40 mother movies, how are there zero queer stories?
Which they had that whole debacle last year when they pulled that lesbian ad for the wedding ad. And they were like, we promise-- This is what I'm talking about. When they say, we promise to do better. We're going to try our best. Bitch, no you're not trying your best because you're putting out 40 movies-- the titties jumped. Because you're putting out 40 movies, and none of them are queer stories.
So of course the internet called them out. And they're like, we're going to try to do better. We want to make Hallmark a place that everyone can identify with, which, by the way, all these movies follow the same theme. It is the rich lawyer, Richard, has to go back to his small hometown to save his parents' struggling printing company. Then he meets the lowly shoe designer, Rachel, and then she ends up saving their Christmas because she builds a really fierce cake.
Because Rachel is not just a shoe designer, she's also a five-star baker, and she builds this, like, 12-tiered Christmas Jesus cake. And everyone lives happily ever after. Imagine that same story, but imagine if Rachel was Tim, or Rachel was a Tyreke. Bitch, now that's saucy. That would be good! So hopefully they think about that for real, and not just give us lip service talking about, we're going to change stuff.
And I bet you they're changing. They're going to add one gay cousin at the Turner family Christmas. They'll be like, we did it. No, you didn't. So do not-- OK, I don't want to say don't support the Hallmark Channel, (WHISPERS) but don't support the Hallmark Channel. Bitch, because also y'all know, like, Candace Cameron, who is honestly the villain of The View. She was so-- She was like a fucking dumpster fire on The View.
It was so great because Whoopi and Joy would just destroy her every time. Candace Cameron acts in, like, all the movies because that's all the gigs she can get because she's a super, super conservative, Christian Jesus lady, and it's what she deserves.
Which kind of brings us to our next story. It's a very feel good, happy story. So I want to talk about it. It's about gender reveals. Now, I'm sure if you follow The Shade Room or if you just are on the internets as we always say here, you know gender reveals are the thing.
They've become the wave. Everyone's doing gender reveals. But obviously, they're problematic for a myriad of reasons because you don't know what gender your kid is. Your kid may be born assigned male at birth, but they are-- So, you know, gender reveals are just problematic by nature, but that has not stopped them from being very, very popular. And one of the craziest ones I've seen was a guy, he went skydiving, and he opted to not have the safety--
He had skydived before so I guess-- Because you have to do things to get certified in that. Anyway, he went skydiving without an assistant person, and he didn't know what color his parachute was. So when he deployed it, then he found out if it was pink, it was a girl, blue, boy. The whole thing. So that's a crazy one. I've seen some other crazy ones, girl. I mean, black folk-- The crazy one I've seen, no doubt, have some Black people doing some crazy ass shit in The Shade Room.
Anyway, besides the point. This mom, her name is Love Gwaltney had a gender reveal 17 years ago for her baby girl. But now her son Grey identifies as non-binary, but also uses he/him pronouns. So she's having a new gender reveal for her son where she did the whole thing. And she, like, really turned it out, and they had a whole party. They had balloons with the non-binary colors, and also the trans pride colors.
It was just really, really, really, really beautiful. And she did this really sad and really cute Facebook post honoring her son. It was just really good. And I think it was just a really feel-good story about a mom identifying with her mistake that she made 17 years ago and saying, I did the wrong thing. Here's to celebrate you. So my hat off to you, Love Gwaltney and your family.
She's also pregnant right now with her fourth kid. So that's a very, very fertile woman, and you better work. And hopefully no more gender reveals until you know the gender. I think that's easy enough. Yeah. Those are all the stories today. And itching. You know, I'm very jealous of our first guest for a myriad of reasons. Number one, look at her face. Gorgeous. Number two, she's been within cologne smell of my boo, Michael Strahan. Y'all, please welcome the fabulous Keke Palmer.
KEKE PALMER: You better stop. Hey boo.
MONET X CHANGE: OK, Keke. So let's start. So you are a movie star, TV star, Nickelodeon star, daytime TV, Broadway, and a recording artist, yet you are 26 years old. How?
KEKE PALMER: I started very young, love.
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah, you started super, super young. Now, were you from a family that your parents, like, pushed you to do it? Or you were like, I want to do this?
KEKE PALMER: My parents told me a lot about entertainment, you know, in their life. They met during speech, and did speech tournaments together. And they did theater after they got out of college. And so I heard a lot about and I saw my first musical very young, at, like, 6 years old. Jackie Wilson at the Black Ensemble Theater in Chicago. So the entertainment was around me, but I never imagined that it was something that kids could do.
Once my parents kind of introduced me to that as being an option, then I was like, oh yeah, I'm down. Let's go and get into it.
MONET X CHANGE: [LAUGHS] And you had a super, super booming career, which you're now taking into Facebook with your new series. Talk to us about that because I never envisioned Facebook as a place for a sitcom, but here you are.
KEKE PALMER: Yeah. I think for me, you know, digitally, I have so much fun coming up with different characters and different material that I want to try out, ideas I have. And my audience there, it's just such a quick way to immediately interact with each other. I can immediately know what they're into, what they're vibing with. And it's very inspiring for me as a creative. So when I knew it was a possibility to kind of branch out the family of this particular character that I do on my Instagram page, that's kind of how "Turnt Up with the Taylors" was born.
And so I was excited. OK, like, let's see what it's about.
MONET X CHANGE: But you're doing all five characters. So are you doing all the writing and everything too? Because that is a lot. Honestly, that's throwing it back to the OG comedians and the OG of stars who would-- They would write all these characters. Like Martin, Martin played like 19 characters in his sitcom.
KEKE PALMER: Yeah. I mean, I definitely do it. But at the same time, I have a team. So a really good production company, Kids at Play, they were awesome. Max Wyatt, who I created the family, to create the character with. He's great on the team as well. So we all work together to make this happen. And we did it in such a short time, literally like two days.
MONET X CHANGE: Two days?
KEKE PALMER: Two days, eight episodes about, I think, three minutes each. Three, four minutes each. So we did it quick, but it was so much fun, and it was exciting. It was different for me to play all these different characters like that. I haven't really done that before.
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah. How has Coronavirus and COVID-19 affected the production of it? Or are we going to get-- Are you going full steam ahead?
KEKE PALMER: Yeah. I think in the beginning, for sure. It was all about, do people want to laugh? I remember when I first brought the character back to my page a couple of weeks ago, it was kind of me just seeing what my audience was feeling like. I mean, look, we're all going through a lot right now, feeling a lot. But I do think entertainment sometimes can be of service in that way, whether it is to make you laugh or think about something light, or maybe go introspective, whatever perspective you're coming from as an artist.
So for me, I wanted to check it. Like do you guys want to laugh? And if you do want to laugh, I think I've got the right thing for you. And so luckily, they were in the mood for a laugh.
MONET X CHANGE: Well, you know, and that's what I've seen a lot of people who I follow on Instagram, like-- I'm sure you do Amanda Seales like, who-- and they have been so great at empowering the community. Whatever your art is, mama, we need that now. If you're a comedian, give us jokes. If you're a chef, give us some food. Whatever your art is, your avenue is, do it.
KEKE PALMER: Yeah, yeah. Literally. Do it and have fun. And enjoy it because people could feel that energy. And that's what we need right now. We need to feel each other, vibe with each other, and turn to each other, love.
MONET X CHANGE: Now, speaking of quarantine, have you been booed up in the, uh, quarantification? Or are you quarantining by your lonesome?
KEKE PALMER: I've been minding my business and leaving yours alone.
MONET X CHANGE: [LAUGHS]
KEKE PALMER: I feel like more than anything, I took the quarantine as a time to be introspective because I'm like somebody that likes to work, work, work, work, work. So the fact that so quickly, you know, the world could be turned upside down, and I had to just stop. And I couldn't do the main thing that, you know, keeps me going. You know, creating and moving. To have to just sit still like that, I think it was really important, and I think it was also necessary.
And gave me a lot of clarity in the next coming of months of all the other stuff that we're dealing with. So [INAUDIBLE].
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah. Well, I would just love to shed some light because I loved your Instagram. You were definitely someone who-- You're very honest. You're very forthcoming. And you speak really openly about stuff. And then with the whole August Alsina drama, he was trying to rope you in and you shut it down immediately. Do you have anything you want to say about it?
KEKE PALMER: No, I just feel, like, online, it's so easy for people to think or assume that you're talking about something specific. Or if a certain group gets involved, it can get really messy really crazy really fast. So I hate that, you know, that was a triggering situation because that's the last thing I would want to do to somebody. But once people think you're saying this or saying that, what can you do? At that point, all you can do is just say, you know what?
I'm going to back on out of it. I wish you the best. And that's kind of the attitude I had because it's not really about me. I got caught in there randomly, but, you know, I ain't got nothing to do.
MONET X CHANGE: What got me-- I was getting tight. I'm like, he's trying to get real shady through Twitter. And I was-- honey, I could smell shade a mile away. I'm like, calm down, Mr. August. Relax.
KEKE PALMER: And that was the other thing. I'm like, love, you could have told me about this. Who was the shady friends lying on me, love? You could've gave me that tea in the back.
MONET X CHANGE: [LAUGHS]
KEKE PALMER: That's the tea I needed, love. Who was this? I probably already cut 'em off, but it is what it is. You know?
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah. And I want to shift to your music a little bit because in 2015, in your single, "I Don't Belong to You", you said this about it. "I don't belong to anyone else but myself. I had to make my own decisions. Happiness is defined by me. And my sexuality is defined by me, and this can change, and I can make it what I want."
KEKE PALMER: Absolutely, absolutely.
MONET X CHANGE: Are you-- are you-- are you family, Ms. Keke? Are you under the LGBTQIA+ umbrella?
KEKE PALMER: Yeah, absolutely. I rep 100% for more reasons than one. And what I feel about it is this. Aside from who you want to focus in on who somebody sleeps with or doesn't sleep, or whatever this is, it's about owning who you are. It's about being-- That's what I think about it. I think about-- I'm owning who I am. I'm being who I am authentically. And who I want to sleep with, who I want to be with, all that is me and my prerogative, and my business.
We cannot always be living in these molds in our lives that the world tells us to do. That's not how you fly as a butterfly. That's not how you evolve, how you grow. So I think in that particular point in my life as well, I was really coming to understanding that, and even more-so now. And so it's like, I don't belong to your ideas of me across the board, love.
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you have a lot of music coming out. I watched the music video for "Snack," and that was dope on many levels for me. Number one, I love the '80s, 90s aesthetic that you were going for, which was so dope to me because we all love a throwback. But it was-- I mean, those were the times when I feel-- Miss Thing, we were the freshest, shit was cool. It was really dope. But the visuals, but it had a very modern sound. What was the inspo behind "Snack"?
KEKE PALMER: I think it was that feeling that you're talking about when we think about that era, when we think about when we used to go to the glamour shots. And it felt innocent, it felt fun. And even though the song, it feels innocent and feels fun, the words and the lyrics, what I'm saying is still sexy. It's kind of, oh. So I'm still trying to give you that sass and an attitude. But overall, it's fun. It brings you back to that feeling where you just kind of like, oh, you know, I'm feeling cute. I'm in my bag, and I'm looking like a snack.
MONET X CHANGE: [LAUGHS] Did you film-- because they've come out over the past month or so. Did you film these during isolation? Because I feel a music video in this time, and I know it's very difficult. But it's so well done.
KEKE PALMER: Yeah. I feel like even if it was in the beginning, or whatever the point was. Even if it's months and months and months from now and we're way out of it, you know, hopefully, it would be amazing if that could be. But it's still going to be weird. I don't think anything's ever going to be the same. So I think in general, post-Corona work or if you're a creative is different. It's totally different on the set.
You want to make sure you're being careful, you're being-- You know, making everybody feel comfortable. But at the same time, you want to try to enjoy it and be able to connect so you can come out with the best outcome. So it's very-- It's different. You know? But I think we're going to be dealing with that for--
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah. And you released these three songs, and they're part of a bigger album. Yeah?
KEKE PALMER: Yeah. So I have a project coming out, coming to you. You know? I'll give you the dates on that. Stay tuned on the Instagram page. But yeah, I've been working on tons of music. And I feel like I was really able to have the time. Especially when COVID happened, it kind of stopped all my traditional works. So I wasn't able to, you know, the talk show. I wasn't able to do any of the film projects I had coming up.
So it really left me to just be thinking solely about music, and so I've got a lot of stuff done. And I was just able to really kind of ride that creative wave. So I can't wait to release it all because it's coming.
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah. And no shade, Ms. Keke, your vibe and your dopeness, and freshness, was such a nice take for the "Strahan, Sara, and Keke" show. And it is really-- honestly, it sucks that it is not going to be anymore.
KEKE PALMER: I know. And you know, that's the thing about it. When you think about our show, it was so heavily about, you know, audience. You know, that kind of that warmth, that feeling. We had so much fun when people came to our show. And that was kind of the vibe. And after COVID, that just became impossible. You know? So much had changed with the vibe and just, you know. And so it was the timing of it all.
And I hate it too. But at the same time, I'm very excited about all the stuff that I have coming with the network. And I love Michael, and I love Sara. And, you know, it was definitely a moment in time of my life I'll never forget.
MONET X CHANGE: Well, you know, and the rumor mill is speculating. They're like, oh, this happened because Keke was so vocal during Black Lives Matter. And the network was like, no! But do you want to clarify anything on that?
KEKE PALMER: You know, I said about it on my Instagram page. First of all--
MONET X CHANGE: That's why I love you. You're like, um, first of all--
KEKE PALMER: Because first of all, I can't let the folks believe that if you speak out, you're going to be punished. That fear-mongering. We can't let the kids feel that way because we need everybody to speak up, and speak their truth, and fight for the things that matter to them. That should be encouraged, and that shouldn't be made-- You know, somebody shouldn't misconstrue a business scenario for that, and turn that into a thing, especially if it includes me, and I have the ability to speak on it.
The reality is is that, you know, you grow in business. Relationships change. Just because you're not on that show doesn't mean you're not-- It's hard to explain if you're not in the business. But I think anybody that knows the business gets that. So it's not this thing of, oh, I don't want people feel that way about. Especially right now, we need everybody to be encouraged, and to understand that people do understand.
When I did what I did, the next morning I was talking about it on "GMA." So that wasn't the scenario.
MONET X CHANGE: That video was-- I mean, it was-- So good, so good.
KEKE PALMER: And I didn't know what folks were going to feel about that. You know what I mean? Because at the end of the day, I was being true to me, and I was very much supported. And this is the thing, if somebody mad at me, how they gonna, you know, take it out on Michael and Sara? It ain't just my show. [LAUGHS]
MONET X CHANGE: Right, right. Yeah. [LAUGHS] That don't make no damn sense.
KEKE PALMER: They not gonna punish them. [LAUGHING]
MONET X CHANGE: Keke, listen. I just recorded a reggae joint, and I feel like Keke and Monae can do a dope project together. I'm going to send you the DM. We going to work it out, it's going to be fresh. It's gon' be 2020. It's going to be the shit.
KEKE PALMER: I'm ready. Hit me up, love. I'm ready. Get into the the DMs.
MONET X CHANGE: [LAUGHS] Thank you so much for coming by and chatting, Keke. You're an angel, and I appreciate you. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you so much.
KEKE PALMER: Thank you, love. It was good talking to you.
MONET X CHANGE: You too, my love. Due to my entanglement on the pit stop with Bob this week, there was no expose. But there is another "I Feel Skinny" to fill the void. Hello, my name is Monet X Change. And welcome back to "I Feel Skinny". Today, we are here in Chelsea at the Body & Pole studio, where I hopefully will learn how to get a man and keep him too.
(SINGING) You know that I love you, baby. You know that I love you, baby. You know that I love you, baby.
To tell us a little bit more about Body & Pole, we have the lovely, the beautiful, he is very, very, very handsome. Please welcome, Phillip. Hi, Phillip.
PHILLIP EVANS: That was the best introduction I've ever gotten.
MONET X CHANGE: Of course, well, you are. Listen, I don't lie, girl. I don't lie.
PHILLIP EVANS: So Body & Pole is one of the largest and most acclaimed pole and aerial studios in the world. We have a little over 10,000 square feet, around 230 classes a week.
MONET X CHANGE: In this building?
PHILLIP EVANS: Yes, in this very building.
MONET X CHANGE: And can you tell us some benefits of pole dancing, like how-- Like what parts of my body are going to hurt after we do this class today?
PHILLIP EVANS: Every part of your body. The biggest benefit, though, beyond strength is just energy. Like, you're going to feel really confident. You're going to feel physically strong.
MONET X CHANGE: I don't need inner beauty, I got exterior beauty. OK? So I will not bore you with any more questions, and you go back and set up some more classes with some more beautiful people. And we'll talk to Rommel.
PHILLIP EVANS: Great, thank you so much.
MONET X CHANGE: Thank you, my love. Rommel, get your ass in here.
ROMMEL PIERRE O'CHOA: Hey, Monét.
MONET X CHANGE: Oh my god. First of all, thank you for agreeing to do this. I know I, like, approach you on Facebook like, I want to pole dance! And he was like, OK. Tell us about your class specifically.
ROMMEL PIERRE O'CHOA: Today we're going to teach an intro class. So it's, like, down to the basics, but we'll have a lot of fun.
MONET X CHANGE: I am not a beginner. I have pole-danced in my past before.
ROMMEL PIERRE O'CHOA: OK, we'll see.
MONET X CHANGE: In a former life, I feel like I was a pole dancer. [LAUGHS]
ROMMEL PIERRE O'CHOA: There are going to be some turns on the ground, floor work. A little conditioning. Some leg work, some sexy legs. A little twerking, twerking. It's going to be a lot of fun.
MONET X CHANGE: And last question, will I learn how to get a man from doing this class?
ROMMEL PIERRE O'CHOA: Yes!
MONET X CHANGE: OK. Good answer, good answer. All right. Let's go. I am ready. I'm all stretched out too. I've stretched. Everything is good. Let me show you how to do that Pussycat Dolls thing. [LAUGHS]
PHILLIP EVANS: Oh, my god
MONET X CHANGE: Did you see my balls?
(SINGING) You've got the time. I got the look. I can show you something, something, something.
Yes. Oh. Girl, I am very nervous. I know I talk a big game, but bitch-- a bitch is nervous. Hot dam, I like it. And what if my whole trajectory of life, I stop doing drag and just becoming a pole dancer?
Also, I'm nervous that I'm going to have slippage. I'm nervous that something's going to come out that's not supposed to. Look at this, honey. Yes, honey. Woo! I'm going to get into this gig, mama.
(SINGING) I may seem innocent like a cat without the claws. You might think I'm super sweet. But like a lion, I'm going to roar. I'll take you by surprise like a stranger in the night. Ready or not, here I come. Boy, you better run and hide. Here comes trouble.
Here comes trouble. I said, oh, oh, I feel your lust. I know you wanna be dangerous. Can't you see I'm a good girl going bad? You love my cherry lips. But like a shark, I show my teeth.
I'll try to be good to you, but I can sting you like a bee. I'll take you by surprise like a stranger in the night. Ready or not, here I come.
I did not know stripping was this hard.
(SINGING) Here comes trouble. Here comes trouble. I said, oh, oh, I feel your lust. I know you wanna be dangerous. Can't you see I'm a good girl going bad? Good girl going bad. Woah-oh, na, na, na, na. whoa-oh. Na, na, na, na. Whoa-oh. Na, na, na, na. Whoa-oh, na, na, na, na. Here comes trouble. Oh, yeah. Here comes trouble. I said, oh, oh, I feel your lust. I know you wanna be dangerous. Can't you see I'm a good girl going bad? Oh, I'm trouble, yeah.
Woo, that was intense. Oh my god. You know, this just shows you that exercise really does come in every form. I was like, oh, I'm not going to sweat. This gon' be easy. I worked a pole or two in my day. I got this in the bag. It was really fucking intense. Body and Pole was definitely a lot of fucking work. You have to use all that core strength and upper body shit. That's not my muscles I engage.
I don't access those fucking muscles on a daily basis, but it was still incredible. I do feel sexier. I feel, like, toner. I feel like-- I really, like, unlocked and unleashed a side of myself I didn't know was there. Let me tell you, Ms. Rommel, girl, she learned those skills on the street, honey. She did not learn that at no Body and Pole class. She was twerking it. She was jerking it. I was like, this bitch better work.
I need some a private one-on-one lessons with her. I'm getting a fucking pole installed in the bar tonight. You hear me? In my next show, I'm going to be up on somebody's pole living my dreams. Thank you guys again for joining us for another lovely episode of "I Feel Skinny". We've been here at Body and Pole in Chelsea, and it was incredible. Our instructor was great. He taught me some moves, girl, that she didn't know that she had. She was gah, gah, gah.
I feel like I'm ready to go into the fiercest club up in Hunts Point in the Bronx, and show the girls how it's really motherfucking done. I'm on the X Change. Whatever crazy exercises you want to see us do, type it down below, girl. Comment, let me know. If you want to see me go swimming, you want to see me do some Ice luging, whatever. Whatever you want to see me do, I would do for you because I'm desperate for your approval.
Comment, share, like, subscribe. And we'll see y'all next week. Bye.
(SINGING) Push it to the ground, from the back to the front. Oh, push.
Oh, lord. I do declare it is time to sip on these All-Stars teas. Everybody, please welcome-- Honestly, I'm looking at her, the flawless Blair St. Clair.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Oh my gosh.
MONET X CHANGE: OK. Full disclosure, Blair came into the meeting and I was like, I literally could never. And that's fine, that's OK. [LAUGHS]
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Stop, seriously. Stop. You're-- You're too sweet. You're just as gorg.
MONET X CHANGE: [LAUGHS] How are you, my angel?
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: I am good. Life is crazy at the moment, but glad that we have time to do this.
MONET X CHANGE: I really-- I'm sure there's so much you have going off so I'm happy that were able to fit us in. Before we dive into "All Stars" stuff, how is-- The last time we spoke, it was the, you know, the announcement of "All Stars" 5. And how has life been since then, especially since experiencing a season through COVID-19?
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Right. Um, life's been crazy. Like, both good and bad. I'll be honest with you. I think experiencing the season through COVID has been really different, and also slightly difficult because everyone's home. So, like, normally if you're on the road, or if you work during the day, or wherever. If you're not at home, you can't be on your phone 24/7. I mean, that's just, like, how life is. But life has kind of flipped and almost everyone.
Not everyone, but a lot of people I should say, are at home and they're on the phone. So it's so much easier with that phone in your hand to comment and to say what you're feeling.
MONET X CHANGE: Girl.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: There are twice as many comments, both positive and negative. And if you like one queen, it is OK that you don't have to say you hate the other queen. Like, I just don't understand this concept that people have not learned yet.
MONET X CHANGE: Like, seriously. Like, how have these kids, these people who watch the show not learned that yet? Liking someone does not mean hate for everyone else.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Yeah. And, like, I'll keep it real, real. But clearly, there are some also-- Other Drag Race sisters that don't love all the other sisters as well too.
MONET X CHANGE: Oh, girl. [LAUGHS] Yes, Blair. There are some "All Stars: 5 girls that have been very shady. I will say we took a two-week off of the show at the Pride, but we extended the invitation for other girls who were eliminated in that time to come on. And some not so friendly replies have happened by some of your All-Stars 5 sisters, but that's fine.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Tea. Oh, bitch. You're going to have to text me after this one and tell [INAUDIBLE].
MONET X CHANGE: Oh, absolutely. 100%. So Blair, so obviously we were on season 10 together. And going into "All Stars" 5, I have to say, noticeably, I just felt like you were stronger, you were more confident. It was to me, someone who has obviously, we toured and worked together as well, it was like night and day from season 10 to All-Stars 5. Why was that? What was that attributed to?
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: I think really because I started doing drag in a community that kind of told me that drag was a certain way. It was kind of like, if you're going to perform on stage, you wear the big 301 lashes. You have the big hair. You have the jewels. You do drag this way.
And then, like, having done "Drag Race," it sounds ridiculous saying it. But truthfully, it was one of the first experiences where I looked around the room and I was like, oh, drag isn't, you know, 1 plus 1 equals 2.
It was kind of like I could do whatever I wanted. So I took the time from leaving our season, having filmed, and many months up until our premiere to kind of, like, experiment a little bit, find myself a little bit aesthetically. And then I think from being on TV up until "All Stars," it was just, like, me figuring out who is Blair St. Clair. Not just a carbon copy of this queen plus this queen plus this queen plus this queen equals me.
It was, like, who am I as a person, who am I? It was aesthetic. Like, what do I love to do? I took, like, a bunch of dance classes and, like, acting classes. I just really, really worked hard in my career and was, like, wanting to be the best. And I think being a perfectionist kind of helped kind of fine-tune some of those little things.
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah. Well, it's interesting you say that because I know there are some of the queens who they kind of feel too prideful to do things like take a dance class, or take an acting class because they're like, oh, I was already on TV. I don't need to do this stuff. So that's honestly really big, someone saying like, no, I had shit to learn. And I went and I did it. I did the groundwork for it, which paid off in terms of your personality.
And you were like, this is who I am. Like, a fully realized person.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Totally. I mean, if you watch "All Stars" maybe it doesn't look like I took a dance class, but--
MONET X CHANGE: [LAUGHS]
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Bitch, I still took one. I still paid the coin to take one.
MONET X CHANGE: [LAUGHS] You did an interview saying that, like, in season 10, you felt it was your time to go, like you accepted it. Whereas in All-Stars 5, it's really hard for you to reconcile with. Why is that?
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: All-Stars is different. I feel like I was-- I know I competed before in another season, like, on season 10. But also, it felt like it was the first time that I was competing because I felt like I was a fully realized, both person and drag character. You know, I feel like I really found myself. So I felt like it was my first time so it hurt more to go home. And, I mean, I get it. I had not won a challenge in terms of, like, being the top All-Star of the week throughout the competition.
But I feel like I won so many challenges there for myself. You know? I conquered so many things myself. So it was so hard not to get to that final moment of standing in front of Ru Paul and having, like, the blow be like, Ru Paul telling me, you're not the winner. That I could accept more versus, like, my peers telling me, sorry, but you're not the one. Goodbye. I was like, oh. It does hurt.
You know? It's just kind of like a completely different game.
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah. Well, that's the thing, Blair. So you got a lot of backlash in the episode, your elimination episode where people were like, how could Blair say that Cracker felt the competition. And people felt like you were being a bit delusional about that.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: That Cracker was my biggest competition?
MONET X CHANGE: No, when you were saying that the girls may have been threatened by you.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Oh, I do think I'm competition. I am, like, that sickening bitch. But just because I'm not the funniest person in the universe, I think I am still definitely competition. I think there's these fans on the internet that think that, oh, if you don't want to challenge, or if you don't have so many followers on Instagram, that you're not the tea. But bitch, I am. And, like, I know that I am. And I'm still competition.
Like, the real, real, I'm still in the competition so I am still competition.
MONET X CHANGE: Right. Tea, though. That's tea. That's tea. That makes sense.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: I mean, count me out. But, like, I got to believe in me. And if I'm not believing in me, no one else is. So at least I'm going to be team me.
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah. And I will say this. We look at, like, season 12, Crystal Methyd had one challenge opposed to the other bitches that had three or four. And bitch, she made it to the top three. You know what I mean? So that makes sense, 100%. And how does your relationship stand with Ms. Cracker now? Because, you know, you did the interview and you were saying how there's this weird thing because she kind of blamed you for not apologizing to Ongina.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Girl, let's talk about that. Because what had happened was--
MONET X CHANGE: Oh, oh, oh. I'm ready now. I'm ready.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Hopefully you got your drink nearby, take a big sip. So Cracker and I are fine. We're cool, all is well. We're still friends because at the end of the day, we are bigger people than a competition. So, like, our friendship was more important than the competition. However, so what had happened, after Derrick Barry was eliminated, Cracker revealed that she thought that it wasn't necessarily fair that Derrick went home because she thought that Ongina was the weakest that week.
And should have at least been in the bottom two, or had gone home. All the other girls kind of attacked her for saying that. And she came to me and said, should I apologize to Ongina? Clearly, I've hurt her feelings. And I said, well, girl, apologize to her if you feel the need to because you're actually regret what you said. If you feel sorry for that, then apologize. But don't apologize just to play a game, like, that's fake.
Don't be fake to apologize because you're actually going to be seen as fake for-- Clearly, if you don't care-- You know, be real. And I told her to be real. So we were talking as a group, and they brought up the thing about Ongina. And what you didn't see is Cracker said-- Well, Blair told me not to apologize Ongina. And I said--
MONET X CHANGE: Oh, that would get me hot. That would get me hot.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: I said, no. I said, now, my character is at question here. And I said, and that is not cute, especially when all these girls around here are my friends, and in real life too, and could possibly vote me off. I was like, no. The truth of what had happened was I told you not to apologize unless you meant it. So you didn't apologize. Therefore, it is not my problem nor it is my fault. So we had a lot of tension there.
We did not talk to each other for days on filming. We did not want anything to do with each other because I felt she really threw me under the bus. And that my character was now being compromised in the competition because some girls were like, oh, is Blair trying to-- What is she doing? And I was like, no, I told everyone the truth. But, I mean, it is what it is. It's a game.
MONET X CHANGE: See, that's the thing. People don't realize in "All Stars" nuanced things like that-- For example, India even dropping in all of y'all's ears that Alexis is shady, that can cause a domino effect of y'all making decisions because now y'all think that India is shady.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Right.
MONET X CHANGE: Oh, that's--
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: And in that instance, I don't know if India is shady, and I don't know if Alexis was shady. I did not know in the moment what was going on. And, you know, in the world, how would I want to be voted? And I said, like, look at this challenge, what has happened in the competition with track record, and I know as a person that I don't want to be guilty until proven guilty. Like, I thought someone should be innocent until there's facts, and I didn't see any facts.
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah. I want to switch gears a little bit to your music because Blair-- OK, so your first album debuted at number one. The second one, I just saw today is number two, and it came out yesterday. How do you feel your experiences are informing your musical journey? Because it is honestly a fierce one.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Thanks. I love music so much, and music is so much a part of my life, and my creativity, and who I am as a person. So I came out with my second album, which is called "Identity", which is now available on all streaming platforms.
MONET X CHANGE: Yes, ma'am.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: It's all about who I am and my identity, and especially All-Stars. And a lot of people call it the glow-up. And I mean, call it what you will, but I've really kind of found who I am as a person. And I'm still growing and finding myself every damn day. I make mistakes every single day, and I also conquer so many things every single day too. And "Identity" is literally about some of my past, some things that I've done that I'm not proud of, some things that I had to do to be where I am today that, you know, I've conquered.
It's about who I am today, and it's just a little bit of all that. And it literally was just released, and I got a call and they were like, hey, just so you know, your album is number two on iTunes. And I was like, in just a few hours? What? I didn't even put-- I don't put music out to chart necessarily. It's just, like, what I love. And I'm really grateful. Really humbled, really grateful, so honored. No words.
MONET X CHANGE: Well, one of [INAUDIBLE] things, like "Bad Judgment"-- your song "Bad Judgment" where you talk about going partying, making new things, and, like, doing things that you regret. But I love that you had the part about saying that you were drunk, but you didn't have your keys for the car, which obviously, your DUI story has been something that's kind of haunted you. They kind of outed you before season 10 even came out.
Is this a conscious effort that you make in your music to speak about those experiences?
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Yeah. What I think is the conscious effort is about being real and relatable because I feel like my fan base likes to know who I am, and I really-- Like, when I put this all on, I'm still me underneath it. But it's kind of, like, I just look a little bit better than just jumping out of bed. You know?
MONET X CHANGE: [LAUGHS]
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Those are experiences, they happened to me. And I'm not necessarily proud of, you know, the DUI specifically. I'm not proud of breaking the law, getting into trouble, and causing so many people, you know, so much pain. And, you know, going through that experience. But I am proud of the person that I am today for going through that. So, I mean, it's a true piece of me. It's a true part of me. So I'd just like to share about, like, what's real.
And, I mean, you can only write songs about what's real, and sing about what's real, and do what's real. And I'd rather that than make up something that's not real, but makes me seem like I'm perfect because I'm not.
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah. And your music video "9 Lives" premiered in June. Did you record it in COVID-19, or was this before?
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Girl, this was done, like, right here.
MONET X CHANGE: Really?
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: I did it myself. I learned everything myself, yeah, besides the editing.
MONET X CHANGE: No, you did not, Blair. Don't try it.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Yes, ma'am. I mean, I didn't have any other options. I was going to originally film the music video in January or February. And I am sure you can relate, like, you know how you into, like, trends of loving how your hair a certain way, or your makeup a certain way, or something like that? Or you love a certain color? I hate filming things that I know will come out months later because by that time when it finally comes out, I'm like oh, that--
MONET X CHANGE: You're a different girl.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Yes, I'm like, why did I wear that? Or like, why was my hair like that? So I was pushing off recording and making a video for so long because I wanted it to be really fresh. And then all of a sudden, I couldn't leave my house so I had to do it at home.
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah. It looks great, girl.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Thank you.
MONET X CHANGE: It looks good. I mean, I did my video-- Mine was throughout the day and it was so crazy. But yours looks 10 times better than mine, and you did it in your house.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Oh my gosh, thank you. I did it in sweat pants.
MONET X CHANGE: Gag.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: [LAUGHS] Half of it was naked with pretty hair and sweat pants.
MONET X CHANGE: [LAUGHS] Blair, do you have any regrets about "All Stars?" A, do you regret going back to "All Stars?"
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: No, I don't regret going back to "All Stars." No. I do have the regret of the last acting-- well, a couple of regrets. So I wish I would have believed in myself even more. I think you saw someone that-- I wasn't being cocky. You know when you speak it into existence, it can come true?
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: I was trying to speak more confidence into existence so that way I become even more sure of myself.
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: So there were moments that I didn't fully 100% believe in what I was doing because I was nervous. I mean, we're on frickin' competition, like you're going to be nervous. So there are a couple times I wish I would have truly believed in myself a little bit more, like the comedy challenge. I had a lot of great material. I had a lot of great stuff that I believed in. But when it came up to the moment of delivering, I was under so much pressure that I put on myself, and I bombed because I didn't do well.
I wish I would have just said, you know what? I believe in myself. You are the best bitch, and you're going to be amazing. And then delivered better, but I didn't. And, you know, I don't regret it necessarily. But if I could redo it, I would.
MONET X CHANGE: And would you-- OK. So if you find yourself in a Manila, Latrice, or [INAUDIBLE] situation, would you go back a third time?
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: I've been asked this literally in the past couple days, and I don't think I would.
MONET X CHANGE: Right now, yeah.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Right now. The time has to be right.
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah, it's also so fresh too. You were like, god damn it. I was so close.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: And I feel like I had so much to show and to prove on All-Starts of how much I've grown. So I think I would either need to be in a different place in my life to show, like, hey, I'm still evolving, or something for there to be a reason for me to come back.
MONET X CHANGE: I also loved-- Blair, I know some people didn't think so and those people are crazy, I think that your fashion going to All-Stars was so, so, so brilliant. People didn't get the camouflage thing. They didn't think that your red tuxedo gown thing prom look was not fierce. I'm like, these people are drunk.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: [LAUGHS]
MONET X CHANGE: Why do you think that is, like Bob The Drag Queen? Blair, why is Bob Blair-hater? Why is Bob hating on Blair St. Clair?
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: I don't know. And, like, I don't take it personally, but I kind of do. Because I remember when Bob visited my city when I was first starting to do drag in Indianapolis, and I am such, like, a Bob fan because I performed with her before drag race ever happened. And I was, oh my gosh. She was so amazing, so sweet. Like, how surreal, like so crazy. And then, like, she was like, I hate this look. I hate this look.
And I was like, I mean, it's your opinion. I'm sorry you feel that way, but I still love it.
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah, yeah. And I think that, you know, you definitely came into All-Stars being very fashion-forward. Was that a conscious decision where you were like, I want to show my best? Because I know that you do want to walk, you know, be a print and catalog model?
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Yeah, I actually want to transition my career into being more of whether it's modeling and working as an influencer, and working-- Whether it's from home or, like, print and stuff versus just traveling all the time and performing all the time on stage because it really has been wearing on me. But I went into All-Stars definitely thinking that I wanted to use my theater background infused into this new fashion-forward mindset that I have.
And I wanted every single runway specifically to be, like, who is that girl? Where is she going? And what is the story that she's telling? And I wanted to take things slightly outside of the box, but still within the realm of the challenge of each runway. Because I think fashion starts a conversation. So if you love it or you hate it, good, you're talking about it.
MONET X CHANGE: And I will say, if y'all have not-- check out-- what's the Michelle Visage--
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: "Whatcha Packin'?"
MONET X CHANGE: "Whatcha Packin'." Your-- sorry, let me adjust my beret because I'm getting so excited. Your look that you got creative with your music, the sheet music, honestly, it is such-- I'm so sad I didn't get to show it on the show. But it was such a beautiful blend of your story infused with fashion. It looked-- I would be really excited to see what it looks like.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: I am so upset about it. So on season 12, they had, like, a bows and buttons runway. And we were told to bring a bows, bows, bows look. So I had this fabric that was printed for me that was made from my sheet music of my first album that was, like, all over me. And it was a very, like, Mozart type of look that had bows all over it, and I had these little tiny violin bows too.
MONET X CHANGE: [LAUGHS]
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: That I had in my hair. And I had these itty, tiny, bitty violins that I was going to take, like, on the runway, and I was going to pull out of the back. But we never used that runway.
MONET X CHANGE: Yeah. It looks-- When you showed it, I was like, oh my god, this is so beautiful and such a great story. It was fierce, girl. This is why Blair St. Clair is a fashion queen on "All Stars" 5.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Thanks, babe.
MONET X CHANGE: I said what I said.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: I was trying.
MONET X CHANGE: [LAUGHS] Blair, listen, you know you're my sister. I love you so much. And yes, you did not take the crown, but I'm so proud of the work that you did. You really showed the world that you are a more confident, fierce diva, and I live.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Thank you. I mean, like, I'm just living one day at a time, trying to get through my life, my best self. You know?
MONET X CHANGE: [LAUGHS]
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Just a little Chapstick and mascara at a time.
MONET X CHANGE: [LAUGHS] Blair, thank you so much. And I'm was excited to do this in-studio at some point, when the world is back to normal, when you are promoting your sixth album that's premiering at number one on the iTunes chars again.
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: When I'm 86 years old, but I look like a pumped up 40-year-old woman.
MONET X CHANGE: [LAUGHS] Blair--
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Cheeks pulled back.
MONET X CHANGE: [LAUGHS]
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Just gorgeous.
MONET X CHANGE: Thank you so much, girl. I'll talk to soon. OK?
BLAIR ST.CLAIR: Thank you, babe. Good to see you.
MONET X CHANGE: Muah. Ugh, it is always such a good time kicking with y'all, my homegirls, and homegals, and home non-binary folk. Thank y'all for tuning in. As per us, I look fucking stunning. Make sure you take a picture (WHISPERS) because it'll last longer. [LAUGHS] And remember to always keep your currency in check. Peace, guys.