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    Why is Israel so chatty about Iran? Israeli intelligence journalist Ronen Bergman explains to Yahoo News

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu meets with President Obama at the UN Sept. 21, 2011. (Pablo Martinez …

    Pentagon officials have lost sleep in recent weeks preparing for one contingency: what does the United States do in the event of a surprise Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear facilities? Israeli intelligence writer Ronen Bergman interviewed several senior Israeli intelligence and defense officials for his Sunday New York Times Magazine cover story asking about that very prospect: "Will Israel Attack Iran?" Bergman comes to the conclusion in his piece that yes, Israel will attack Iran this year. But the Israeli officials who publicly discuss the option in the piece, and who have made other recent public statements, also present the question: why are Israeli leaders suddenly so chatty on the topic? Doesn't that put at risk one key strategic advantage Israel has prized in the past, the element of surprise? Bergman spoke to Yahoo News by phone from Israel Sunday. The interview has been edited and condensed.

    Yahoo News: There's always been a theory that if Israel is going to strike Iran, it is going to be very quiet about it (as it was before the 1981 strike on Iraq's nuclear reactor and in the 2007 strikes on the alleged Syrian nuclear facility). By contrast, I was struck by Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak so conspicuously thinking out loud on such a sensitive question in recent public statements, including in your piece. What happened to earlier thinking in the administration of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that if Israel is serious about bombing Iran, it would not blab so much?

    Bergman: I have heard with some amusement the comments and follow ups and op-eds following the story, basically some of them suggesting Barak is using me and using the platform of the New York Times Magazine to send a message to the U.S. administration and to the White House. But it was not easy even to convince him to speak off-record about that.

    Yahoo News: But it's not just in your piece. Barak and Netanyahu have the past few months made several statements publicly signaling they are keeping their option open to strike Iran this year. The Pentagon interpreted Barak's request last month to take a planned U.S.-Israeli missile defense exercise off the calendar as one possible sign that Israel is keeping its options open to strike Iran in the spring, and thus wouldn't want 5,000 U.S. troops on the ground in Israel then. And top U.S. officials--the president, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey--have asked Israel at least twice for assurances that it will not do so, or at least will not do so without giving the U.S. advance warning, and reportedly been refused.

    Bergman: Former Mossad chief Meir Dagan's public campaign against an Israeli strike on Iran has caused a public debate in Israel about this issue. And you can see that he has put Barak and Netanayhu in a tight spot, in a certain sense. He is accusing them; that for popularity they are going to strike Iran. So they feel they need to explain their position.

    The second thing is that most of the Israeli statements are not meant for Israeli ears. There's an expression in Hebrew, 'Hold me back. So I won't hit him.' What Barak is doing with these statements—what Israel is now doing with the aerial drill—and other issues: they are trying to tell Europe—hold me back, you know, crazy Israel, because otherwise Israel will take the initiative. The problem with this sort of statement is that it is coming back to some extent to the Israeli public and it is creating fear in the population here.

    Yahoo News: I know you're an intelligence expert, and not a political journalist. But is there any sense that politics, and in particular the U.S. presidential elections, could be one factor under consideration in Netanyahu's calculus on whether and when to launch Iran strikes? [Defense Secretary Panetta, in a speech to the Saban Forum last month, in which former Mossad chief Meir Dagan was in the audience, was in some ways making a case why Israel should not do a preemptive strike on Iran--in part because he said the consequences would drive oil prices over $200 a barrel, throw the world back into a global recession, etc. Left unsaid, such a situation would seemingly also potentially cost Obama reelection.]

    Bergman: For politicians, I cannot overrule political considerations. But for Netanyahu's and Barak's political coalition, I would be very hesitant to bet it is going to help them to win, because the day after [a possible Iran strike] is going to be [very] problematic, the world will be mad at Israel, and I am not sure the population is ready for war.

    Some people in Israeli intelligence and military planning are saying, "let's wait for President Obama to win re-election and once he has his next term in the White House, we cannot overrule [rule out] that he would order military action, because he promised that he will not allow Iran to [get nuclear weapons]. So if he did, he will be humiliated."

    A lot of people say, "do not underestimate the stubbornness of President Obama. He was there to take the decision and was courageous enough to take military action against Osama bin Laden--against the advice of some of his advisors."

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    • bushwacked  •  3 mths ago
      Israel/Iran are on the other side of the world. Stay out. Let them start talking instead of sabre-rattling.
    • MARTINS  •  Elk Grove, California  •  3 mths ago
      Why does the state of Israel crave inordinate attention? All we ever hear from Israel is WAR. Whernever World attention is not focussed on Israel, it comes up with all kinds of foolishness and the U.S jumps to attention. For Israel that failed to ratify the anti-proliferation treaty because it does not want to give up her Nuclear stockpile to become the enforcer of anti nuclear proliferation is the height of naked hypocrisy.
    • optionout  •  Houma, Louisiana  •  3 mths ago
      Between this and the Euro mess....what a year this is going to be.
    • Muhammad Ali  •  3 mths ago
      How conveniently they have colluded your minds and made you think that Iran is REALLY making a bomb??? Even IAEA is not sure and still has to check... nobody is sure about anything... its all the war drums neocons that are preparing your mind and checking americans and others for reaction... just like the WMDs in Iraq... Please think about it!
      • HaveSomeSense2 3 mths ago
        Very True!
      • Stan 3 mths ago
        Hey!!!!! You don`t look like muhammed ali....you`re just some rag head.
    • NeoConMan101  •  Chico, California  •  3 mths ago
      when will governments start acting in he best interests of their people? When the people demand that they do!
    • Seyed  •  Kokomo, Indiana  •  3 mths ago
      Let us recall what really happened during Iraq war: about 5000 Americans lost their lives, it cost American taxpayers 1000 billion dollars (trillion), hundreds of coalition soldiers coming from 25 countries had the same fate, and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were killed. Somehow mysteriously terrorism was born in Iraq for first time. Curiously, no Israelis were killed even though Israel had declared Iraq its worst enemy.

      A war with Iran would be more of the same. The question all citizens in the western nations should be asking is, who will Israel decide is to be its next great enemy after Iran? Will it be Egypt, Turkey, or any other country on this planet?
      • peppy 3 mths ago
        Let us be warned that if Iran did secretly master nuclear technology, they could smuggle bits and parts across the Mexican border, build multiple car bombs armed with nuclear warheads and drive them into downtown New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco and other major cities. It would make 9/11 look tiny... I'm not talking about dirty bombs, I'm talking about full scale nuclear bombs that could easily fit into a Van and they would make these cities look like Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Are you naive enough to think Iran's crazy dictator wouldn't allow it? The same guy who is always screaming "Death to America! Death to Israel! We will wipe Israel and the US off the map!"?
      • radu n 3 mths ago
        SF movies to scare kidds
      • Seyed 3 mths ago
        Peppy: I personally believe that what you sometimes hear in the streets of Iran directed toward US, UK, or Israel is just releasing quick emotions because of the double standard in foreign polices of these countries toward Iran, or for that matter, the weak countries that do not blindly submit to the wills/demands these countries.Their Quick release of emotion is toward the policies not The People of These Countries. Please Do Try To Scare People With Your Really Far Fetched Imagination.
    • emmanuel chibuzor  •  Lagos, Nigeria  •  3 mths ago
      Why must it be how to attack,how to invade, and how to destroy,? you don't talk about helping other countries develop
      • THE AMERICAN 3 mths ago
        True very true : (
      • Brian 3 mths ago
        What do you mean? We are most certainly helping other countries develop. China, India, Mexico, and all the other third world nations that we exported our jobs to.
    • READY  •  Omaha, Nebraska  •  3 mths ago
      Why do so many people want to see war? I seen it in 83-84 in Beirut as a young man and I'm here to say I would not want this outside my door yet so many people want it, I don't understand. Is it because there is so much hate in the world? Then I have to ask the question, why hate? Nothing better going on in the life of a hater or does the world just treat a hater so bad they have no choice in life. Anyone got an answer?
      • none 3 mths ago
        Most of the posters for war have problably never served in the military or fought in combat.....people like ourselves that have, know better.
      • READY 3 mths ago
        Amen!
    • LeoS  •  3 mths ago
      Going once, going twice, KABOOM
    • Don  •  3 mths ago
      Iran suddenly allowed UN inspectors in, why? To buy more time. Their thinking is Isreal won't attack as long as the UN inspectors are in town. More shrewd moves and the west falls for it every time.
      • Jew-el 3 mths ago
        You can bet your s we wont attack.....why attack when we have our American allies to do our dirty deeds?
      • P 3 mths ago
        You mean it is the other way around when it comes to "Israel."
    • Esteban  •  3 mths ago
      I'm looking at the photo - which one is the US flag again?
    • jeb  •  Culpeper, Virginia  •  3 mths ago
      I'm not certain what the value of this article is. Ronen Bergman here is portrayed as an intelligence officer, he's a journalist being interviewed like he's an intelligence officer. He seems to thrive on controversial topics. Out of hand I would dismiss this as more than a provocative statement to make it seem Netanyahu and Obama are dancing cheek to cheek.
    • styl  •  Miami, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      I am not a fan of obama but this crappy writer keeps referring to our US president by his first name Barak instead of at least saying Obama when mentioning netanyahoo by his last name.it is a slight way of disrespecting a us president....like calling bush........george and netanyahoo......this from a person called Rozen.......racism and disrespect is a two way street, be careful what you sow .
    • Gary  •  3 mths ago
      why do people write loose, when they mean lose? what is that about?
    • Gilbert  •  3 mths ago
      iran should talk with israel. talking is better than war. if they have no intention of ever striking israel, let them back it up with diplomacy and written assurances. if they won't talk, the alternative isn't good at all.
    • Jay81  •  3 mths ago
      Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto.
      Thomas Jefferson
    • Gator Bite  •  3 mths ago
      I have always wondered if any of these warmongers or aggressive govs. think for a moment about the Cost-Benefit Ratio (economically and culturally) of the Evil Unnecessary Wars they always plan and instigate and start ? Especially in terms of the Long term future relationships in the world after all the destructions and taking innocent lives, How could they sleep at night ?
      Where is Jesus when you need him ?
    • Fred  •  East Greenville, Pennsylvania  •  3 mths ago
      I wish I could hear the REAL story.
    • Ray Sisd  •  3 mths ago
      "It is no coincidence that the century of ‘total war’ coincides with the century of central banking." -- Ron Paul
      "Permit me to issue and control a nation's currency, and I care not who makes its laws."
      -- Meyer Amschel Rothschild, godfather of the so-called "Federal Reserve Bank"
    • Abulolo  •  3 mths ago
      American dream was not about getting involved in millenia old religious disputes.
      But after succumbing to power of Jewish Rothschilds, the dream changed!!
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