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    Rick Perry wants to scrap three government departments. What would that mean?

    AP Photo/Paul SancyaRick Perry's excruciating brain freeze as he tried to remember which government department he wants to eliminate was clearly the YouTube moment of last night's debate. But lost in the hilarity was the question of what Perry's plan would actually mean.

    Perry said he wants to scrap the federal Departments of Commerce, Education, and Energy (even though that last one eluded him for a while). So it's worth asking: What do those departments do?

    The Department of Commerce contains the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, which runs our system of intellectual property. Without it, America would have no way to ensure that inventors could fully profit from their inventions, giving them little incentive to spend the time and money needed for breakthroughs. The pace of American innovation would likely take a huge hit.

    Commerce also includes the Census Bureau. The accurate count of Americans that the department provides each decade lets leaders and policymakers know how to allocate resources--housing, roads, utilities--around the country. And Commerce also encompasses the National Weather Service (NWS), which issues crucial warnings about severe weather like hurricanes and floods. When state and local officials make decisions about how and when to evacuate, they're generally going off NWS information.

    The Department of Energy, created during the Carter administration, protects U.S. nuclear weapons from accidents or terrorist attacks that could release dangerous radioactive material, killing thousands. Without the oversight that the Energy Department presently provides, it would be difficult to maintain a nuclear weapons program at all.  The Energy Department also plays a key role in funding and promoting the civilian use of nuclear power.

    As for the Department of Education--likewise created under President Carter--its role is more limited, because the U.S. education system is highly decentralized. Indeed, Perry is hardly the first conservative to pledge to abolish it. The Education Department does have a role in shaping education policy, however, by handing out funds to states that adopt its preferred reforms, and it also enforces privacy and civil rights laws in schools.

    Of course, Perry could eliminate the departments but maintain all these functions, by simply shifting them into different agencies. The Pentagon, for instance, might take over management over nuclear weapons. His economic plan, "Cut, Balance, and Grow," doesn't mention his plan to eliminate specific departments. Some agency functions might also devolve to state or local authorities in Perry's plan, but it's hard to see how major initiatives could get funded at the state or local level--particularly in rough economic times like the present. But we'll learn more about Perry's plan next week when he plans to give a speech on "government reform," a Perry spokesman told Yahoo News.

    Until then, it's fair to say that doing what Perry recommends would mean either scrapping, or fundamentally reassigning, some key government functions.

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    • Dennis  •  St. Louis, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Put the politicians on the same field as the rest of us. They get social security and medicare and then they will fix it. Do away with life long pensions for serving 2-4 years.
      • Shairk. 6 mths ago
        Make them abaide by the laws they create.
      • Dennis 5 mths ago
        All we can do is vote each and everyone of them out
    • Grog  •  6 mths ago
      I just came in here looking for the latest news on Moses leading the Israelites from Egypt, and this story is still up. Man talk about old news.
      • The Colonels Daughter 6 mths ago
        Grog: Too funny! By the way, Yahoo is publishing new birth announcements. They appear to be written in sandscript and the dates are not discernible because they are chiseled into stone tablets.
    • PamelaM  •  Dayton, United States  •  5 mths ago
      It is a shame that out of all the qualified people that this great nation has, the line-up of R candidates look really sad.
    • Janet  •  Cincinnati, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Why not eliminate the pension and health plans for politicians and put them into our SS plan. Maybe then they wouldn't want to take the SS money so quickly to use it somewhere else.
      • A 6 mths ago
        Since that would have to be enacted by Congress, You don't actually think it could ever happen do you? Not that it sure isn't a great idea, and I agree with it 100%
      • MUD 6 mths ago
        I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE JANET !!!
        THESE SELF SERVING ' CAREER ' POLITICIANS DON'T HESITATE PASSING A BILL TO GIVE THEMSELVES AN AUTOMATIC 7% SENATE ,, AND 5% CONGRESS RAISE WHERE AS THEY'RE TELLING US THAT ' WE THE PEOPLE ' WHO PAY THEIR SALARIES , PERKS AND BENNIES ,, HAVE TO SACRIFICE AND BITE THE BULLET DURING THESE ' HARD TIMES ' ,,, AFTER WE'VE WORKED FOR 35 - 40 YEARS ENTRUSTING OUR $$$$ INTO ' THE SYSTEM ' THAT WOULD NEVER BE TOUCHED AND WILL BE THERE WHEN YOU RETIRE OR SHOULD YOU BECOME DISABLED SUCH AS I AM . HAD I TAKEN JUST 10% OF WHAT I PAID INTO SOCIAL SECURITY OVER MY LIFETIME AND INVESTED IT INTO MICROSOFT , HOME DEPOT , ORACLE , INTEL , WAL - MART STOCKS,,,,,
        I'D BE SITTIN' ON 40 - 50 MILLION $$$$ ,, CRUISIN' AROUND ON ' MY ' YACHT,
        DRINKING MAURGARITAS AND LIVING LARGE ENJOYING RETIREMENT !!!!
        NOOOOO ! INSTEAD THE POLITICIANS WANT TO RAPE SOCIAL SECURITY ,
        GIVE BAIL OUTS TO MAJOR BANKING / MORTGAGE COMPANIES ETC AT THE EXPENSE OF ' WE THE PEOPLE ' !!!!! I SAW ON THE NEWS THE OTHER DAY THAT FANNIE MAY OR FREDDIE MAC WANTS AND NEEDS ANOTHER 7 BILLION $$$$ TO STAY AFLOAT !!!! HMMM ,,, IT'S GETTING CLOSE TO CHRISTMAS AND THEY NEED THE LOOT SO'S THEY CAN PAY THEIR
        ' EXECUTIVES ' THEIR ' CHRISTMAS ' BONUSES !!!!!!!
        BEAUTIFUL ,,,,, JUST %*&^(&#$@ BEAUTIFUL !!!!!!!!

        MUD
      • Cynthia 6 mths ago
        I agree Janet take the politicians pension/health plans and make them have to get ins. like the rest of us. Maybe then they would think twice about what they vote for.
    • GM of the year  •  6 mths ago
      It looks like Republicans and Democrats are in agreement on banning lobbyist from washington... So why dont the goverment start with that??
      • JohnWilkesBooth 6 mths ago
        Who do you think people these people in goverment ? ( big banks and big corps)
      • SDCC-2004 6 mths ago
        forget about what people say and watch what they do. it is election time and they will tell you what you want to hear. there are ways to read most people but i will not relate it on this comment board because i do not want these creeps to know what they are doing to expose themselves.
      • Bill 6 mths ago
        Obama declared several times that the lobbyists were out during his campaign and the next day after elected, he opened the door for them. Democrats are not in agreement to ban lobbyists!
    • steve a  •  Fayetteville, United States  •  6 mths ago
      The first thing that needs done away with are lobbyist
      • Tom 6 mths ago
        BINGO!
      • Ralph C 6 mths ago
        Didn't Obama say that he was going to get them out?? Another broken promise.
      • Michael 6 mths ago
        Amen brother!
        Then should come the elimination of politicians as "consultants" to companies they regulated
    • Lou  •  Gainesville, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Remember folks, We the American People made them and We The People can break them.
      That is the secret they don't want you to realize.
      They divide and conquer. Split and confuse. Let us come together.
    • nietcheese  •  6 mths ago
      Politics is a 2-headed coin given to us as a feel-good device that keeps us divided and distracted. The ones that give us the coin to flip...selected and nurtured each side they want as "our choice" and character-assassinate those they don't want as "our choice". They could care less which "side" wins. Whichever side wins will reward its minions, but the overall goal is maintenance of power. The long-term goal is to spend (through wars or peacetime projects) as much money as possible, so that just like with the maxed-out credit card...only the interest can be paid. The game's been played all round the World...it's fixed...and the pseudo-intellectuals (self-proclaimed geniuses) fall for the lies to the bitter end.
    • rebecca  •  Doylestown, United States  •  6 mths ago
      term limits,, no benefits after office, no lobbiest, no bailouts. stop welfare fraud,
    • Republicans killed Americ ...  •  6 mths ago
      As has been said before, the people in Congress should wear NASCAR style suits with the name of the carporations that OWN them through their campaign donations on the suits. That way it would be so obvious that the people would do something about it.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  Irvine, United States  •  6 mths ago
      This is such a biased/agended review. Notice how I didn't say analysis.

      I wish these article writers, not reporters, for they just don't report, would provide an unbiased analysis of the pros/cons of the choices. In this article the writer(!) showed their agenda. Shame on you for trying to manipulate the process.

      By the way, I am not a Perry supporter. I am a supporter of the American way without the manipulation of these groups that don't represent you and me, but try to impose
    • eric  •  Flint, United States  •  6 mths ago
      We already eliminated the Department of Common Sense....the rest are Moot!
    • make the politicians acco ...  •  6 mths ago
      None of these politicians know what is going on . What in the world made them so brain dead.
    • tim  •  Minneapolis, United States  •  6 mths ago
      An easier way to cut spending is to eliminate the pensions these tools get after only 2-4 years of service. I spent 8 years in the marine corps and pretty much get squat. Why are these people any different?
    • george  •  6 mths ago
      get rid of lobbyists and corporate campaign money first !
    • Socialist Atheist on Food ...  •  6 mths ago
      Until lobbyists are completely banned, spending will never be under control. The money's just too good to pass up.
    • yahoo Finance User  •  Chicago, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Add the postal service to the departments the government want to close. May I live to see what would happen when the current politicians and their family, live to be so they cannot walk, and they have to pay bills and receive mail, and there is no postal service to perform the desired service. By that time they would have stolen enough tax payers money so they would be able to have their own servive.May all who are seeking closure of UNIONIZED POSITIONS,rot in hell. What has happened to "Work tenure" or "being vested" in a position, no matter what the service may be. What has happened to the laws passed by Congress Why not cut back on ALL political positions, especially Congressmen, stop fighting foreign wars, and use American resources in America. They made it just about mandatory to serve
      "OUR COUNTRY" the prime objective of getting elected to Congress is to become rich. People, one day the pot would be empty. or the value of the dollar would change, who would be left to fight for Congress then.
    • Bross Hedros  •  Camden, United States  •  6 mths ago
      How 'bout we just scrap the concept of corporate "donations" to elected officials?
    • J  •  Elgin, United States  •  6 mths ago
      yaHOO doesn't have a clue. Their news is a joke. They got nothin' This has been on the headlines forever and it's evident that witless Perry isn't even a contender anymore.
    • Peter  •  Santa Clara, United States  •  6 mths ago
      "The Energy Department also plays a key role in funding and promoting the civilian use of nuclear power."
      So....I can assume they do nothing since we haven't commissioned a single new nuke plant since they were brought into existence?
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